Buds quality LEDs VS HPS

[Abiqua]

organic chemistry =/= organic gardening

No it does not...just as two examples are shown, one being chlorine which is not an Organic compound, but is approved for use in organic gardening as per the USDA, right from the goddamn manual....on organic certification, so just happens that I have consulted for the main inpecting arm for USDA Organic certification for the West Coast...Oregon Tilth....anyone is free to read their literature right on their front page.....

taken further, there are other compounds like certain types of animal steroids and antibiotics that are clearly not Organic in compound nature and are grandfathered into the USDA's description of organic gardening and as such lists them as organic. Fine, that doesn't make them an actual organic compound containing carbon, because they have none in the chemical formula.......

fuck sakes cobby again, please city any credible reference that says that an organic compound is somehow inorganic i.e Co2, cyanide as other examples cited.....

 

[a mongo frog]

fuck sakes cobby again

Thats not very nice. Maybe he trying to learn and decides to try to answer a question. Maybe he was wrong no big deal. Funny but not very nice.

 

[Buba Blend]

My other post meant no disrespect toward the LED Growers out there that are actually doing it and doing it well, I'm getting to know a few and I think GG did an awesome grow with HPS and LED. I will join the party someday too. Your work will help that transition. I have already told one excellent LED grower that he is bringing me closer to make the transition.
Just got crabby at the arrogant tone from potential non-growers.
I am curious of an observation I made hanging in this area recently.
Why do the people who spend the majority of their time in the LED section have an abondance of likes.
I get why there are so many likes given in the politics section or the toke and talk section but why the LED section?

 

[Abiqua]

Thats not very nice. Maybe he trying to learn and decides to try to answer a question. Maybe he was wrong no big deal. Funny but not very nice.

Did you want to add to the discussion on correctly discusing "organic"?

 

[a mongo frog]

Did you want to add to the discussion on correctly discusing "organic"?

No. Thanks for asking though. I run a bottled nute base and some cal mag as of now. Im no where near qualified for "organic" talk.

 

[CobKits]

fuck sakes cobby again, please city any credible reference that says that an organic compound is somehow inorganic i.e Co2, cyanide as other examples cited.....

im not getting involved in your argument, just factually stating that they are completely unrelated

organic chemistry = deals with compounds containing carbon

organic gardening = completely independent of whether a compound contains carbon (see: glyphosate and any of the other 1000s of horrific petrochemicals that are organic molecules re: organic chemistry)

Edit: after catching up on posts i agree with your statement that plants primarily only uptake nutrients as elemental ions. i was commenting on the more common terminology of "organic" as applied to gardening, which really wasnt what you were talking about at all.

 

[Chunky Stool]

No it does not...just as two examples are shown, one being chlorine which is not an Organic compound, but is approved for use in organic gardening as per the USDA, right from the goddamn manual....on organic certification, so just happens that I have consulted for the main inpecting arm for USDA Organic certification for the West Coast...Oregon Tilth....anyone is free to read their literature right on their front page.....

taken further, there are other compounds like certain types of animal steroids and antibiotics that are clearly not Organic in compound nature and are grandfathered into the USDA's description of organic gardening and as such lists them as organic. Fine, that doesn't make them an actual organic compound containing carbon, because they have none in the chemical formula.......

fuck sakes cobby again, please city any credible reference that says that an organic compound is somehow inorganic i.e Co2, cyanide as other examples cited.....

Is uranium organic?
Radon?
Would my plants glow in the dark?

Atomic weight/yield could be awesome.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Is uranium organic?
Radon?
Would my plants glow in the dark?

Atomic weight/yield could be awesome.

Alright! Atomic Kush. I'm in. Sounds powerful with awesome bag appeal.

Or alternately Neon Kush.

 

[ttystikk]

You guys do know that HID will probably go the way of incandescent bulbs and be banned at some point because it's a inefficient obsolete tech.

In my city they already have been. Not only are they inefficient but they're tired of seeing house fires started by stupid kids with streetlight grows.

 

[a mongo frog]

In my city they already have been.

Bull shit. The hydro stores in your area are selling the shit out of hps. Call them up and ask them.

 

[ttystikk]

maybe they arent illegal. pretty sure grainger stopped selling them tho

https://www.epa.gov/hw/frequent-questions-about-epas-mercury-lamp-drum-top-crusher-study

this looks current

http://www.mercury-instrumentsusa.com/bulb_eater.html

My city isn't even using HID for streetlights anymore; they're replacing them with LED all over town. Brighter, better spectrum, less energy use, much longer lasting, more durable.

 

[ttystikk]

Bull shit. The hydro stores in your area are selling the shit out of hps. Call them up and ask them.

I know every store in the city and they sell HID only to 'people growing outside of town'. $3000 fine for using them inside city limits.

Fuck your bullshit. Next time you wanna mouth off, do your homework first.

 

[a mongo frog]

I know every store in the city and they sell HID only to 'people growing outside of town'.

Not true. Your city is the top 20 distribution of HPS bulbs. Stop the lying. Ok Ok Ok your led is the best we get it. Your bud you grew was the best ever. Just cut the bull shit. Please.

 

[ttystikk]

Not true. Your city is the top 20 distribution of HPS bulbs. Stop the lying. Ok Ok Ok your led is the best we get it. Your bud you grew was the best ever. Just cut the bull shit. Please.

It's against city ordinance. Did you just learn to read?

The idea that people violate city ordinances doesn't mean they aren't in force.

 

[CobKits]

example: mammoth P does nothing in inert media

 

[a mongo frog]

mammoth P

Pretty sure no one uses this.

 

[Fractured but whole]

I haven't had to screw in a replacement LED yet (knock on wood)
How is replacing lamps every year treating you?
I've sent LED buds to the people who shared these cuts with me years ago and I have records of their reactions and impressions and not a one had a negative thing to say about the LED grown as they didn't even know it was LED buds...

I challenge any HID maximalist to an HID/LED smokeout and we can record the whole thing for youtube.

WHAAAAAT? I thought all LED weed was better quality,yet they didn't know? Hmm????

 

[CannaBruh]

WHAAAAAT? I thought all LED weed was better quality,yet they didn't know? Hmm????

who told you that, or you assumed this?

 

[Fractured but whole]

who told you that, or you assumed this?

have you read the thread? LOL, try looking at the post right above the one I quoted you on.Pg10

 

[CannaBruh]

have you read the thread? LOL, try looking at the post right above the one I quoted you on.Pg10

why tf would you quote me then, try quoting what you refer to instead of misquoting shit