Buds quality LEDs VS HPS

Fractured but whole · Nov 25, 2017

CannaBruh said:
why tf would you quote me then, try quoting what you refer to instead of misquoting shit

gee you're dumb, I quoted YOUR post because YOU said something that goes against what LED fanboys and the whole context of this thread are saying, I even put that part in Bold large red. Effen idiot.

captainmorgan · Nov 25, 2017

And the shit show continues. Good bud can be grown with about any light source. My main reason for going LED was efficiency, I can use a minimum of 1/3 less electricity for lighting plus the cooling savings. And it can be much more versatile.

Fractured but whole · Nov 25, 2017

captainmorgan said:
And the shit show continues. Good bud can be grown with about any light source. My main reason for going LED was efficiency, I can use a minimum of 1/3 less electricity for lighting plus the cooling savings. And it can be much more versatile.

and I can live with and agree with that, it's the promise of magical unicorn farts and the "I'm led so my shit is better and don't question my tests that say so attitudes i can't stand.

Fractured but whole · Nov 25, 2017

a stroll thru the led forum is like driving a 69 el camino thru san francisco.

Buba Blend · Nov 25, 2017

Buba Blend · Nov 25, 2017

It got so quite!
So the title: Buds quality leds VS HPS
Who won?
Or is the fight still going and it is between rounds.
OK! Then who is winning?
HPS or led?

wietefras · Nov 25, 2017

Fractured but whole said:
the "I'm led so my shit is better and don't question my tests that say so attitudes i can't stand.

Yet you are the only one saying this. Or at least pretending other people are saying this in droves.

nfhiggs · Nov 25, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Real scientific testing to conclude such things requires third party testers and multiple trials with identical parameters.

I agree with this. Side by sides really prove very little. You need multiple grows under controlled optimum parameters, preferably with proper blinding as well.

MichiganMedGrower · Nov 25, 2017

Buba Blend said:
It got so quite!
So the title: Buds quality leds VS HPS
Who won?
Or is the fight still going and it is between rounds.
OK! Then who is winning?
HPS or led?

I think the best grower with the most stable hospitable environment wins no matter which light is used.

Chunky Stool · Nov 25, 2017

I've watched people buy gear in an effort to improve quality and it never works out.
If you suck at golf, a new set of clubs & expensive balls won't improve your score... :dunce:

MichiganMedGrower · Nov 25, 2017

Chunky Stool said:
I've watched people buy gear in an effort to improve quality and it never works out.
If you suck at golf, a new set of clubs & expensive balls won't improve your score...

But when you practice and get good with what you got then nicer gear will be well, nicer. ;-)

Chunky Stool · Nov 25, 2017

"1,000w LED" for $125???
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower/dp/B0185OLBPK
Only pulls 185w at the wall. :dunce:

How do they get away with this?

CobKits · Nov 25, 2017

Chunky Stool said:
"1,000w LED" for $125???
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower/dp/B0185OLBPK
Only pulls 185w at the wall.
How do they get away with this?

by calling it 1000W

MichiganMedGrower · Nov 25, 2017

Chunky Stool said:
"1,000w LED" for $125???
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower/dp/B0185OLBPK
Only pulls 185w at the wall.
How do they get away with this?

Marketing requires exaggeration when it comes to selling these led lamps apparently.

They must have got it from the cfl screw in light bulb business. 15 watt actual bulb compares to 60 watts.

Not in my side by side they don't. Lol. There are 2 bulbs right near each other hanging bare from my basement ceiling. The 60 watt incandescent bulb is way brighter than the twisty bulbs I get to use now.

I won't be able to see if they go to 5 watt led replacements. :-)

Shawndeadhead · Nov 25, 2017

LED cob system I built, pulling 2lbs of quality like this out of only 500w in a 4x4. Though I stack them in at 25 per 4x4, short 3 week veg.
LED done right is a winner in my book. Used to get 1.5 lb avg on a good run of a 1000w hps de.
Yields I'm getting little over 8oz more for half the watts...win win lol
Quality is better in looks and aroma, more crystals. Dept, slight increase in potency, probably all related to not being cooked by the heat that comes off a 1000w hps these are random shots from week 3-6 of flower. These were the same strains and mom's that I had under the HPS system before I built my lights a year ago.

Dave455 · Nov 25, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Marketing requires exaggeration when it comes to selling these led lamps apparently.

They must have got it from the cfl screw in light bulb business. 15 watt actual bulb compares to 60 watts.

Not in my side by side they don't. Lol. There are 2 bulbs right near each other hanging bare from my basement ceiling. The 60 watt incandescent bulb is way brighter than the twisty bulbs I get to use now.

I won't be able to see if they go to 5 watt led replacements.

Look at lumens per watt. LED bulb of 15 watts about 1600 lumens. Quantum Board 120 driven at 15 watts
about 2800 lumens. Pretty much shows you direction to follow.

coreywebster · Nov 25, 2017

Chunky Stool said:
"1,000w LED" for $125???
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower/dp/B0185OLBPK
Only pulls 185w at the wall.
How do they get away with this?

In a lot of cases they add up the 200 x 5w diodes they use = 1000w. That's always in big while real wattage is in tiny writing.
You would think theses sellers/manufacturers would of wised up by now and realised it just harms their rep in the long run.

Fractured but whole · Nov 25, 2017

wietefras said:
Yet you are the only one saying this. Or at least pretending other people are saying this in droves.

apparently not, i have been called the new yoda, the guy right after you posted that he doesn't buy it, and so have many others. Sorry i triggered you.lol

Chunky Stool · Nov 25, 2017

Shawndeadhead said:
LED cob system I built, pulling 2lbs of quality like this out of only 500w in a 4x4. Though I stack them in at 25 per 4x4, short 3 week veg.
LED done right is a winner in my book. Used to get 1.5 lb avg on a good run of a 1000w hps de.
Yields I'm getting little over 8oz more for half the watts...win win lol

Wow, 25 plants in a 4X4? I used to do 9 in my 5X5 and it was crowded.
I'm beginning to think LED is best suited for enclosed spaces with very reflective surfaces, like tents. Especially with quantum boards, since you can't really put a reflector on them like COBS.
Or can you?
Hmm...
Has anyone converted an old adjust-a-wing reflector to LED using a couple of quantum boards? Just mount the driver on top.

jonsnow399 · Nov 25, 2017

Chunky Stool said:
Wow, 25 plants in a 4X4? I used to do 9 in my 5X5 and it was crowded.
I'm beginning to think LED is best suited for enclosed spaces with very reflective surfaces, like tents. Especially with quantum boards, since you can't really put a reflector on them like COBS.
Or can you?
Hmm...
Has anyone converted an old adjust-a-wing reflector to LED using a couple of quantum boards? Just mount the driver on top.

stephen has some kind of optics mounted on his new light i think

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