The Real Reason White People Say...

[ttystikk]

things no real progressive should ever have to say^^^^

You wouldn't say this either, except that you have no other arguments.

 

[UncleBuck]

You wouldn't say this either, except that you have no other arguments.

i have never had to explain repeatedly calling someone a "f****ot" or telling people to fix racism by not talking about it.

 

[Padawanbater2]

i have never had to explain repeatedly calling someone a "f****ot" or telling people to fix racism by not talking about it.

So why don't you answer whether or not you believe Quentin Tarantino is racist?

 

[UncleBuck]

So why don't you answer whether or not you believe Quentin Tarantino is racist?

stop trying to compare your posts on a pot website denigrating others to a dramatic fictional depiction by an oscar winning director.

 

[bundee1]

It's not denigrating anyone for being gay if they're not gay

If SneekyFa*got sucks dicks, I will wholeheartedly apologize

Stop being such a fa*got, fa*got

He's not your friend and you should know better. I would think its a word we might have left in the recent past.

I know where you're coming from with your usage but still.

 

[Padawanbater2]

you should know better.

If I should know better, why don't you hold UB, or any of the others, to the same standard when they wish cancer on someone they disagree with politically?

 

[bundee1]

If I should know better, why don't you hold UB, or any of the others, to the same standard when they wish cancer on someone they disagree with politically?

Because maybe you're wrong?

And I've cAlled Buck out a couple of times for lack of originality and vulgarity.

 

[UncleBuck]

If I should know better, why don't you hold UB, or any of the others, to the same standard when they wish cancer on someone they disagree with politically?

you are illiterate.

i said spaghetti noodle was a mooch because of his multiple cancer treatments and that he does not subsidize anyone.

although i do sincerely wish that nazi fuck succumbs to cancer and soon. he is a nazi. that's more than a "political disagreement".

 

[Padawanbater2]

Because maybe you're wrong?

And I've cAlled Buck out a couple of times for lack of originality and vulgarity.

If I'm wrong then point out why

 

[bundee1]

Because its offensive to gay people, and you're using it in an offensive not complimentary manner. Simple enough.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Because its offensive to gay people, and you're using it in an offensive not complimentary manner. Simple enough.

I'm not using the word to denigrate gay people. The way I'm using it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

If you think it's offensive, that's fine, but it's in no way homophobic

 

[abandonconflict]

@Padawanbater2 Thanks for liking this post so I could find it again.

@Fogdog @UncleBuck this is the original post, in its entirety. Chipping off the first statement is taking it out of context.

No. It is the major premise of your fallacious argument and the opening statement. It is not distorted but quoted verbatim.

You can just say that you were wrong about it instead of this exercise in futility you are continuing by defending it as something else. Why does the subject of racism make you feel so uncomfortable?

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm not using the word to denigrate gay people. The way I'm using it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

If you think it's offensive, that's fine, but it's in no way homophobic

It is offensive and homophobic, you defender of white men.

 

[Fogdog]

@Padawanbater2 Thanks for liking this post so I could find it again.

@Fogdog @UncleBuck this is the original post, in its entirety. Chipping off the first statement is taking it out of context.

The point I was trying to make- poorly, it seems- is that a lot of people on both sides of any given racial divide deliberately talk it up to score points, rather than trying to solve anything. Y'all would be familiar with that tactic, considering how often you use it.

The sentence does not stand on its own in a vacuum. It only makes sense when the other two statements are also true, and we're certainly nowhere near there in this country.

I've had the experience of being eavesdropped upon by someone whose only interest is to twist something said out of context to try to accuse me of being racist without being involved in the conversation- when nothing of the sort was being discussed! It's shit like that I was referring to.

In no way do I advocate telling everyone to 'just shut up' about race. By itself that tactic would only serve to cement the divides that already exist.

Now, let's see if you two are men enough to accept your part of this manufactured misunderstanding- or if you'll just continue to prove the very point I was making.

Your honor, I submit to this forum the point that reading @ttystikk 's posts is not the equivalent of eavesdropping.

The post @ttystikk refers to is quoted again in it's entirety.

I think that if everyone quit talking about race, part of the problem would be solved.

Another part would be solved if we truly treated each other as equals.

The final part would be solved if we came to terms with the history of racism and took steps not only to prevent it from ever happening again, but also to ensure both that those who are disadvantaged are made whole and everyone gets a fair shot moving forward.

These points may sound simple, but each masks a great deal of complexity and divisiveness.

To tty, I ask the following:

You hold to three main points. Your first point is "if everyone quit talking about race, part of the problem would be solved"

As you say, "The sentence does not stand on its own in a vacuum. It only makes sense when the other two statements are also true, and we're certainly nowhere near there in this country."

What I don't understand is, how can white and black people come to terms with racism and treat others as equals if, as you say, "everyone quit talking about race".

Isn't this a contradiction?

 

[ArcticGranite]

you are illiterate.

i said spaghetti noodle was a mooch because of his multiple cancer treatments and that he does not subsidize anyone.

although i do sincerely wish that nazi fuck succumbs to cancer and soon. he is a nazi. that's more than a "political disagreement".

Don't backpedal now. Own it. Own each and everytime and they're are countless posts of yours, wishing cancer recurrence/death, or stating Nazi cancer in your posts to me.

Your have made yourself a pariah with your own vitriol.

 

[Michael Huntherz]

It is offensive and homophobic, you defender of white men.

I am not sure he was defending white men in that context. I may have missed something, but let’s try to stay within some kind of conversational bounds. I am not indicating an endorsement of your opponent’s view, I am indicating a possible repositioning of the conversational goalposts.

 

[abandonconflict]

I am not sure he was defending white men in that context. I may have missed something, but let’s try to stay within some kind of conversational bounds. I am not indicating an endorsement of your opponent’s view, I am indicating a possible repositioning of the conversational goalposts.

I wasn't addressing you. He did not apparently ask for your input.

 

[bundee1]

I'm not using the word to denigrate gay people. The way I'm using it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

If you think it's offensive, that's fine, but it's in no way homophobic

Stop being so tone deaf fool. Its like calling someone the n word even though they're not black. You're using it in an offensive manner. And its black people you would be offending, not the intended target of your offense.
Get it now?

 

[abandonconflict]

Well, you should probably be mad at me, then. What the fuck is wrong with the people on this site? You are a knot of abrasive assholes.

You are one of the people on this site. I prefer abrasive people to liberal tone-police. Especially white guys who presume to tell me what I should be mad about and why. Is that why you addressed me? Is that why I have alerts from you?

Do you need fucking attention? What are you doing here sweetheart? It's politics and look who is president. Did you expect everyone to be fucking cheerful and to treat you like a hotel guest?

Get the fuck out of here.

 

[whitebb2727]

I agree the government and authorities are completely out of control. But I'm not going to change my opinion there's no reason to dishonor people that gave everything and don't forget their families. I'm not going to be a part of that.

Kneeling during the national anthem is not taking away from anyone that served or gave their life.