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[SneekyNinja]

So nothing, then? There's nothing in all these Democrats record that shows they support universal healthcare?

Then guess what, they don't support it. They just tell rubes like you they do and you eat it up and keep voting for them without the evidence.

Obamacare was supposed to be the first step. Democrats play the long game, it's called "strategy".

See how Republicans couldn't revoke it even though over 50% of people hated it at first?

That's called strategic planning, sweetheart...it ensures the next time the opposition takes Congress that they cant just don't undo everything out of spite.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Obamacare is not universal healthcare

The Democrats who support universal healthcare, for different reasons, sponsor/cosponsor the bills that seek to enact it, the ones that don't, don't

 

[SneekyNinja]

Obamacare is not universal healthcare

The Democrats who support universal healthcare, for different reasons, sponsor/cosponsor the bills that seek to enact it, the ones that don't, don't

I didn't say it was, I literally said it was the first play in the long game.

Bernie's bill was hollow, do you regularly sign your name on something immediately destined for the trash?

 

[Padawanbater2]

I didn't say it was, I literally said it was the first play in the long game.

Bernie's bill was hollow, do you regularly sign your name on something immediately destined for the trash?

Democrats who don't sponsor/cosponsor legislation that seeks to enact universal healthcare don't support it. If they did, they would

 

[Fogdog]

I didn't say it was, I literally said it was the first play in the long game.

Bernie's bill was hollow, do you regularly sign your name on something immediately destined for the trash?

His next gambit is to tell you to cite it, even though it's literally on the same page.

 

[Fogdog]

Democrats who don't sponsor/cosponsor legislation that seeks to enact universal healthcare don't support it. If they did, they would

You mean that incomplete bill that Bernie says is just a symbolic bill put out to further the discussion? You do realize that Republicans were the ones who blocked the bill from further discussion, don't you?

 

[Padawanbater2]

You mean that incomplete bill that Bernie says is just a symbolic bill put out to further the discussion? You do realize that Republicans were the ones who blocked the bill from further discussion, don't you?

Any bill that seeks to enact universal healthcare. If Democrats supported it, they would sponsor one or cosponsor some other one they support. You're claiming the Democratic party has supported universal healthcare for 80 years, but more than half haven't signed on to any bill that looks to implement it. You believe they support it because that's what they told you. Actions speak louder than empty words.

 

[Fogdog]

Any bill that seeks to enact universal healthcare. If Democrats supported it, they would sponsor one or cosponsor some other one they support. You're claiming the Democratic party has supported universal healthcare for 80 years, but more than half haven't signed on to any bill that looks to implement it. You believe they support it because that's what they told you. Actions speak louder than empty words.

It wasn't a bill that sought to enact universal healthcare. Sanders even said so himself. Sorry but you got caught up in your own fake news story. The bill was in fact an action of empty words. I'm so sorry to burst your bubble of happiness.

Ok, no, I'm not.

 

[abandonconflict]

His next gambit is to tell you to cite it, even though it's literally on the same page.

I'm beginning to think he just responds to shit without reading it. He's probably got a neckbeard.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It wasn't a bill that sought to enact universal healthcare.

S. 1804

"To establish a Medicare-for-all national health insurance program."

Congress.gov full text of bill

 

[Fogdog]

S. 1804

"To establish a Medicare-for-all national health insurance program."

Congress.gov full text of bill

It was an incomplete bill and Sanders said it wasn't going to pass this year. What else was it but a symbolic act filled with empty words. I can't help that you fell for it. That's not my problem.

 

[abandonconflict]

Single-payer with privatized medicine would be an economic disaster. Sanders only wrote it so that he would be able to say he tried something, aka symbolic. He's trying to get positive publicity, like a crooked ass politician.

 

[Fogdog]

Single-payer with privatized medicine would be an economic disaster. Sanders only wrote it so that he would be able to say he tried something, aka symbolic. He's trying to get positive publicity, like a crooked ass politician.

Thou shalt not speak unkindly of Saint Bernard. The wrath of the Sandernistas will be visited upon you.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It was an incomplete bill and Sanders said it wasn't going to pass this year. What else was it but a symbolic act filled with empty words. I can't help that you fell for it. That's not my problem.

It proves he supports it. If someone asked "What proves Sanders supports universal healthcare?", you can cite S. 1804 as evidence. You can't do that with Feinstein or Pelosi or any of the rest of the establishment Democrats because they don't actually support it

And it proves your claim that the Democratic party has supported universal healthcare for 80 years false

Thanks for playing

 

[abandonconflict]

Yeah, he just answers without reading shit. He doesn't understand what is going on.

 

[Fogdog]

It proves he supports it. If someone asked "What proves Sanders supports universal healthcare?", you can cite S. 1804 as evidence. You can't do that with Feinstein or Pelosi or any of the rest of the establishment Democrats because they don't actually support it

And it proves your claim that the Democratic party has supported universal healthcare for 80 years false

Thanks for playing

It was a symbolic bill. It got a record number of cosponsors. Sorry you don't understand what that means.

To be honest, neither do I because I'm just not into symbolism.

Republicans are the reason we don't already have universal health care coverage.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It was a symbolic bill. It got a record number of cosponsors. Sorry you don't understand what that means.

To be honest, neither do I because I'm just not into symbolism.

Republicans are the reason we don't already have universal health care coverage.

Where's the 80 years of evidence that shows the Democratic party supports universal healthcare?

 

[UncleBuck]

It proves he supports it. If someone asked "What proves Sanders supports universal healthcare?", you can cite S. 1804 as evidence.

psssssttttt - hillary beat him to that punch by 20+ years

hillary also beat him in the primary by a landslide in a fair primary and is not under investigation for bank fraud either.

 

[UncleBuck]

Where's the 80 years of evidence that shows the Democratic party supports universal healthcare?

 

[st0wandgrow]

You mean that incomplete bill that Bernie says is just a symbolic bill put out to further the discussion? You do realize that Republicans were the ones who blocked the bill from further discussion, don't you?

Why did Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken and others co sponsor it then? Does that reflect poorly on all of them too?