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bundee1

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Ah, another one of my fanboys.

Racist?

Really?

You've been watching too many of Trump's Presidential debates!

Now, you too are projecting your weaknesses!

You guys hate Trump for some reason, I don't know why, you both are the exact same to me.
You're a Russian troll clown. What you think belongs in the toilet with the rest of the turds( little pieces of shit as I know you have to look it up). Your syntax is easily differentiated from a native speaker in that what you write sounds like it was translated in your head. I know the process as I grew up bilingual.

Call out Russian trolls (except Vostok as his posts are sometimes thought provoking and he's out and out Russian)
Don't even engage in their b.s. posts. Cornballs have new SN every week. Literally dont feed their gruel and fake Marlboro eating asses.
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
Is a white person calling an African American the n-word in its full meaning an act of racism?
Yes

What about racist jokes?
Depends on who the joke teller is.

Why is it OK to you that Bernie Sanders says "people are tired of political correctness rhetoric"? We all know that he means white people when he says people.
Because political correctness does not just relate to white people and racism. You're trying to spin it that way, but it doesn't. Politicians are constantly being politically correct when it comes to religion. Blathering on about god and religion in attempt to not offend the religious right. Fuck that shit. I'd love to see a politician tell it like it is and remind everyone that religion has no place in politics. Politicians for years were politically correct about gay marriage too. No matter their personal beliefs, they'd walk the tight rope of supporting a civil union, but not actually supporting marriage simply due to a political calculation based on political correctness. I want to know what a politician stands for before I cast my vote, no matter if it offends me or not. By defending political correctness you're essentially saying that you'd prefer to be lied to. If someone is racist, I want to know. If someone is homophobic, I want to know. Don't you?

^agree with all the above....
I don't see why you connect homophobic beliefs with racism. The two are independent of each other.
:lol:
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Yes



Depends on who the joke teller is.



Because political correctness does not just relate to white people and racism. You're trying to spin it that way, but it doesn't. Politicians are constantly being politically correct when it comes to religion. Blathering on about god and religion in attempt to not offend the religious right. Fuck that shit. I'd love to see a politician tell it like it is and remind everyone that religion has no place in politics. Politicians for years were politically correct about gay marriage too. No matter their personal beliefs, they'd walk the tight rope of supporting a civil union, but not actually supporting marriage simply due to a political calculation based on political correctness. I want to know what a politician stands for before I cast my vote, no matter if it offends me or not. By defending political correctness you're essentially saying that you'd prefer to be lied to. If someone is racist, I want to know. If someone is homophobic, I want to know. Don't you?



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Put simply, political correctness speech and writing is simply avoiding gratuitous insult to people in their audience. There is no valid reason for defending gratuitously insulting speech or writing. PC has nothing to do with avoiding discussion of difficult topics including black on black crime or immigration or gender issues. Maybe we should call it civil speech but "cs" is already taken.

When white racists like Trump complain about political correctness, they mean a range of speech regarding marginalized people. And then with that complaint, they use it as justification to gratuitously insult others. He managed to become elected on the backs of racist white people too. So, for him, it wasn't a detriment at all. And yet, reports show that after Trump gained national attention with his most definitely non-pc speeches regarding Latinos and Muslims, hate crime rose by a whopping large number. Speech matters not only to the marginalized targets for his insults but also to people who harbor the same feelings that Trump put to word.

When people say "I don't like feeling like I'm walking on eggshells to avoid sounding like a bigot", what they are really saying is: “I want the freedom to call people what I please, but no one should call me a bigot.”

Politicians say what people want to hear. What does a politician's statements regarding their faith have to do with avoiding gratuitous insults? Politicians talk about their religious beliefs to connect with their audience. I don't get how this is somehow pc speech.

Are you really conflating homophobia with racism? It's true that ignorance is the root of both but why is it important to you when talking about racism to bring up the high number of African Americans who are homophobes. Is this a "yeah but" argument? Well it's wrong and harmful to be a racist and it's wrong and harmful to be a homophobe. I don't understand your point and don't think you even have one here.
 
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st0wandgrow

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Put simply, political correctness speech and writing is simply avoiding gratuitous insult to people in their audience. There is no valid reason for defending gratuitously insulting speech or writing. PC has nothing to do with avoiding discussion of difficult topics including black on black crime or immigration or gender issues. Maybe we should call it civil speech but "cs" is already taken.

When white racists like Trump complain about political correctness, they mean a range of speech regarding marginalized people. And then with that complaint, they use it as justification to gratuitously insult others. He managed to become elected on the backs of racist white people too. So, for him, it wasn't a detriment at all. And yet, reports show that after Trump gained national attention with his most definitely non-pc speeches regarding Latinos and Muslims, hate crime rose by a whopping large number. Speech matters not only to the marginalized targets for his insults but also to people who harbor the same feelings that Trump put to word.

When people say "I don't like feeling like I'm walking on eggshells to avoid sounding like a bigot", what they are really saying is: “I want the freedom to call people what I please, but no one should call me a bigot.”

Politicians say what people want to hear. What does a politician's statements regarding their faith have to do with avoiding gratuitous insults? Politicians talk about their religious beliefs to connect with their audience. I don't get how this is somehow pc speech.

Are you really conflating homophobia with racism? It's true that ignorance is the root of both but why is it important to you when talking about racism to bring up the high number of African Americans who are homophobes. Is this a "yeah but" argument? Well it's wrong and harmful to be a racist and it's wrong and harmful to be a homophobe. I don't understand your point and don't think you even have one here.
I get what you're saying, and don't entirely disagree... but politicians absolutely are politically correct when it comes to religion. They placate to the religious among us all of the time.

I mentioned homophobia when discussing racism because they are both forms of prejudice. I don't view one as being any worse than the other. Judging someone, and ultimately trying to suppress their rights based on the color of their skin, or their sexual preferences are both wrong, and should be called out. For whatever reason there seems to be a reluctance to do so by some here. Is this an example of political correctness that people are so unwilling to admit that the African American community is indeed capable of being prejudiced towards others?
 

Enigma

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Bias/prejudice is not racism. You better have experienced some institutionalized racism before whining about being a victim of racism. Have you?

Is it their skin colour that makes them incapable?

I'm trying to understand the mind of a bigot, I'm very unfamiliar with your logic.
 

dagwood45431

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By calling you a gringo?

Write me another haiku, cracker.
I used to get called "white soda cracker" fairly frequently back in the day (along with a few other funny things based on my whiteness). The first time confused me. How many seconds of my life have I suffered from racism? Zero and counting. With the possible exception of extreme gay interracial porn, no one has ever been tied to a post and whipped while being called "white soda cracker".
 

Fogdog

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I get what you're saying, and don't entirely disagree... but politicians absolutely are politically correct when it comes to religion. They placate to the religious among us all of the time.

I mentioned homophobia when discussing racism because they are both forms of prejudice. I don't view one as being any worse than the other. Judging someone, and ultimately trying to suppress their rights based on the color of their skin, or their sexual preferences are both wrong, and should be called out. For whatever reason there seems to be a reluctance to do so by some here. Is this an example of political correctness that people are so unwilling to admit that the African American community is indeed capable of being prejudiced towards others?
I'm kind of insulted by how politicians go on and on about their religious views. Even so, it's not a gratuitous insult, or pc. Some religious leaders can affect the vote for or against a politician and so they take pains to associate themselves with the religious leader's faith. Isn't it understandable why they do this? I find it offensive because the implication is they are better than others due to their faith. But I can see why they do it.

Where pc and religion comes into play is when a leader takes pains to avoid saying "Islamic terrorist". For good reason. They want to avoid gratuitously insulting 3 billion people who have nothing to do with the extremists who claim terrorist acts in the name of "Islam". That, to me, makes sense. Trump, on the other hand goes out of his way to gratuitously insult at least 95% of everybody alive on the planet. That, to me, makes no sense.

I've called Dylan Roof a Christian Terrorist to deliberately insult Christians as a way of making a point. This was definitely not pc of me.

I've been following this thread and haven't seen anybody say African Americans can't be prejudiced against any group, just people saying as you have, not racist against whites. I could be wrong, if you want to point it out to me, then I'll say so.
 

rkymtnman

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've called Dylan Roof a Christian Terrorist to deliberately insult Christians as a way of making a point. This was definitely not pc of me.
you really have to look at what century you are referencing.

christians were terrorists, as were muslims as were catholics as were jews as were ....

i'm not a biblical historian but every religion was guilty of terrorism at some point along the way.
 

abandonconflict

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no way man.

pacifico clara is my go to cerveza. then negra modelo. con limon por favor!
Tecate. Nah Pacifico is good shit too, brewed in Mazatlan. I was traveling for a bit with this Colombian chick who loves Corona and she's whiter than some mfkrs in this thread. I was with her in Cancun and she asked for a bottle of that shit and my friends were busting my balls about bringing a gringa but she responded on her own about how Tecate made them fat, ouch. My friends have thick skin though, call everyone gringo, nobody ever feels like it is racism.

I quit drinking long ago, quietly took a drink from my water bottle.
 

rkymtnman

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Tecate. Nah Pacifico is good shit too, brewed in Mazatlan. I was traveling for a bit with this Colombian chick who loves Corona and she's whiter than some mfkrs in this thread. I was with her in Cancun and she asked for a bottle of that shit and my friends were busting my balls about bringing a gringa but she responded on her own about how Tecate made them fat, ouch. My friends have thick skin though, call everyone gringo, nobody ever feels like it is racism.

I quit drinking long ago, quietly took a drink from my water bottle.
have you seen those lame Tecate commericals with Sly Stalonne and Canelo (boxer) Alvarez maybe?
i watch Liga MX cause i like football and i'm hoping i learn espanol by osmosis. lol

how did you get to travel so much? i think seeing the world is very important before you kick the bucket.
 
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