Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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UncleBuck

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You criticized Sanders for endorsing Mello because, at one point, he opposed abortion rights

Now, Rep. Ben Ray Luján, the DCCC Chairman, says their official position is "Democrats will not withhold financial support for candidates who oppose abortion rights"

So you also oppose the DCCCs stated position, too, right?
if we sacrifice our values as democrats just to win, what's the point of winning?

i guess women's tights never were much of a value for you though, considering the whole duct tape anal spread fascination and the obsession with "men's rights".

say, how are "men's rights" different from women's rights?
 

ttystikk

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You criticized Sanders for endorsing Mello because, at one point, he opposed abortion rights

Now, Rep. Ben Ray Luján, the DCCC Chairman, says their official position is "Democrats will not withhold financial support for candidates who oppose abortion rights"

So you also oppose the DCCCs stated position, too, right?
Not to do so would be hypocrisy, but that doesn't seem to stop Democrats these days.

Sell-OUT!

Sell-OUT!

Sell-OUT!
 

ttystikk

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if we sacrifice our values as democrats just to win, what's the point of winning?

i guess women's tights never were much of a value for you though, considering the whole duct tape anal spread fascination and the obsession with "men's rights".

say, how are "men's rights" different from women's rights?
They aren't, hypocrite. That's the whole point. You're the one trying to pick and choose who gets their rights protected and who doesn't.
 

ttystikk

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oh, so padawan is for women's rights?

why does he only ever say he is for men;s rights then?
You're the one who's been throwing men's rights under the bus for weeks now. But keep trying to wiggle out of it, hypocrite.

Civil Rights are for EVERYONE, silly Buckster!
 

Fogdog

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You criticized Sanders for endorsing Mello because, at one point, he opposed abortion rights

Now, Rep. Ben Ray Luján, the DCCC Chairman, says their official position is "Democrats will not withhold financial support for candidates who oppose abortion rights"

So you also oppose the DCCCs stated position, too, right?
misquoting. again. Have you lost so much of your self esteem that you are unable to accurately quote what somebody said?

Bernie came out in support of a mayoral race candidate who was opposed to choice. Have you moved past your support for Bernie, the progressive candidate?

During primaries, I think the only bar to entry in the race should be a low fee to cover vetted and fair registration costs. After that, it's up to the candidate to campaign and win the vote of the electorate. If I were in a district that had an anti choice candidate, I wouldn't support them. That's very different from tops-down imposition of candidate positions in every district nationwide. The allocation of funds is also a political choice by DNC leadership. A representative of David Duke, for example could register and run as Democrat simply for the purpose of embarrassing the Democratic Party. I'd expect the DNC to withhold funding to him. For myself, I don't support the idea of a set of required position in order for a candidate to run but that doesn't mean the DNC would have give money to a candidate with beliefs counter to the core of the party's policies, including withholding primary campaign funds from anti choice candidates. That said, it's up to the party leadership how to handle this situation and explain decisions if controversial. Everything they do must be legal, within the rules of the DNC and further the goal of replacing Republicans with Democrats.

After primaries are over, the winning Democratic Party candidate will have won approval of Democrats in their district. Withholding funds at that point becomes one in opposition to the electorate. I'd say that's a high bar to cross and can't say absolutely one way or the other because there are lines I can't cross. But would not be opposed to treating that candidate differently from others if opposition to abortion were the sticking point. I'd never support that candidate. I say it's up to the DNC and not me to decide. Elections aren't a morality soap opera or a game. Elections matter and they are all about issues like this. It's DNC's job to win elections. We'll have another shake-up if they fail to take advantage of the wellspring of activism that Trump has inspired. They have accountability and so have the decision making power on this issue.
 
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ttystikk

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In case there are any lingering doubts about who really runs our country;

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/08/07/us-inequality-breeds-oligarchy-new-report-details-pathway-equity

Excerpt:
Pervasive and growing inequality is corroding American democracy, and only ambitious solutions—including healthcare for all, a living wage, and the elimination of corporate money from the political process—will be sufficient to remedy the crisis.

That is the conclusion of a new reportpublished Monday by the Next System Project and the Institute for Policy Studies. Their analysis makes overwhelmingly clear that despite the Trump administration's self-serving celebrations of the stock market boom and recent monthly job data, the vast majority of Americans remain locked out of America's tremendous wealth.
 

Padawanbater2

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the racist homophobic bigot who HATES superdelegates is touting the EC.

huh
I'm highlighting the hypocrisy in Fogdog's appeal. Sanders smashes every other politician in the polls, he says the only poll that matters is during the election. Yet the election happened and he constantly criticizes the results. Don't get upset the logic works in reverse, too. I'm not the one that made the argument.
 

ttystikk

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I'm highlighting the hypocrisy in Fogdog's appeal. Sanders smashes every other politician in the polls, he says the only poll that matters is during the election. Yet the election happened and he constantly criticizes the results. Don't get upset the logic works in reverse, too. I'm not the one that made the argument.
The argument is weak, that's why he has to call you three of the nastiest names he can think of in order to try to distract you from the weakness of his logic.

That's weak.
 

UncleBuck

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I'm referring to here in reality where Sanders is the most popular politician in the country. Clinton lost to Trump who had a 60% disapproval rating on election day
clinton outpolled bernie sanders though.

why are you trying to change goalposts, you racist homophobic bigot?
 
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