Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense
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Fogdog
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He didn't just let them. They weren't invited. They put him in a position where he decided it was best that he step away. To his credit he did.
Still this was and still is Bernie's weak spot or blind spot. If he's so good on race and minority issues, why didn't we see more endorsements from minority groups. What caused African Americans to only vote one drove's* worth for him?
Per Padawon, a drove is approximately 1/4 of a herd.
ttystikk
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Spin, followed by irrelevant drivel to distract.
Mr Sanders could most certainly have had security remove them but chose not to.
abandonconflict
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Good point. Not only were they not invited, but they had to travel a long way to disrupt the rally since his rallies were usually located in areas far from the focal points of activism related to police brutality. He tended to focus on affluent areas. He's been in the game long enough to know that if he'd had them ejected he would lose all progressive cred, so those ladies were bold to go so far out of their way to disrupt his little white gathering.
Fogdog
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Yep, he was canny enough to know that those two black women who had not been invited and had shown up unannounced, slipped past his security and now in the spotlight were political dynamite to him. I never said St Bernard was stupid.
But don't hold this up to us as an example of diversity and inclusion. Don't you be calling us stupid now.
ttystikk
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abandonconflict
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What an absurd reply. Trump's entire platform depends on his xenophobia and strongman populism.
Fogdog
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You brought up the BLM protesters at his rally as an example of how your saint Bernard is the colored folk's standard bearer.
Well, no.
That they had to crash his party and boldly take center stage is an example of how he is not.
ttystikk
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Why public debt is different than private debt, and therefore why austerity programs are so destructive;
https://rwer.wordpress.com/2017/07/24/the-balanced-budget-paradox/
https://rwer.wordpress.com/2017/07/24/the-balanced-budget-paradox/
abandonconflict
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Fogdog
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Why Bernie Didn’t Get My Vote
It’s not his focus on the economy—it’s that he doesn’t seem to understand that the economy is structured by gender and race.
https://www.thenation.com/article/why-bernie-didnt-get-my-vote/
Bernie didn’t ask for my vote. Oh, you can go to his website and find a page of boilerplate setting out his general commitments to women’s rights: He’s in favor of equal pay, reproductive rights, the ERA, the Violence Against Women Act, childcare for all, and so on—a laundry list, indeed, of the causes dear to the heart of those often derided by his supporters as bourgeois feminists content with incremental change. I am aware, too, that Bernie has a good voting record on those issues in Congress. But there’s a difference between someone who votes the right way, and someone who introduces legislation and champions the issue. He never convinced me that gender issues, specifically the persistent subordination of women in every area of life, were of much concern to him. There were all those little tells. Pooh-poohing Planned Parenthood and NARAL as “establishment” when he didn’t get their endorsement. Arguing for parental leave because it allows a new mother “to stay home and bond with her baby” instead of as something that benefits fathers as well, and something that women need in order to work and advance on the job. Doubling down on the idiotic quip by his surrogate, Killer Mike (“A uterus doesn’t qualify you to be president of the United States”), with the pseudo-lofty pledge “No one has ever heard me say, ‘Hey guys, let’s stand together, vote for a man.’ I would never do that, never have.” Is there a word for someone whose entitlement is so vast, so deep, so historically embedded, and so unconscious it includes the belief that they got where they are by a resolute devotion to fair play? It’s not reassuring that his senior campaign staff, like his long-time political inner circle, is almost entirely white and male.
Fogdog
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poor oppressed white man
Read and try to understand. It's not what you did its the excuses you make for it. AC doesn't excuse anything. His reasons are personal, factual and coherent. I can respect that.
Yours, not any of the above. It's the fake shit that eventually brought me to sharpen my spear and stick you with it. You are biased and susceptible to it so maybe I should give you a pass.
Nah, won't happen.
You are capable of figuring it out.
Padawanbater2
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My reasons for not voting for Clinton include her vote for the Iraq War, her intimate ties to Wall Street, and her aversion to commit to single payer healthcare
Those reasons are personal, factual, and coherent. So why can't you respect them?
abandonconflict
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I don't recall @Fogdog disrespecting that. He was just pointing out how full of shit you are for repeatedly claiming I support someone I don't just because you fail utterly with every other attempt at arguing. I'm not surprised you'd rather deflect than respond to the very direct criticism made against you based on your remarks.
ttystikk
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Sooner or later, shit like this is going to come back and bite us;
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/22/pers-j22.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/22/pers-j22.html
ttystikk
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Because they don't know the definition of respect.
They don't respect anyone else's views, nor the rules of rational debate nor even basic decorum.
Everything they've said in this thread, not to mention throughout the politics section, is proof enough of that.
They aren't worth your time.
ttystikk
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But you failed to answer the question.
abandonconflict
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abandonconflict
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I don't think you understand what is going on here mouth breather. I'm also not surprised you can't tell the difference between what is good for Trump and what is good for Bernard.
Of course Trump would have kicked them off the stage, and he would have gotten more support from his racist ass base for that. Bernard on the other hand had to keep pretending to be progressive, ya dingus.
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