14+ weeks of flowering?

Budley Doright

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all my stuff is flowering,if ya in the northeast an no sign of flowering u running late,how late u run up there?
I was a week or two late and got them in June 1st. All my plants are typically ready mid to late Sept. (photo) and sometimes October but that's pushing the envelope lol. The auto's are supposed to be 10 weeks so another 4 will be 10. My girlfriend transplanted all the girls into Solo cups and didn't transfer the labels so I'm assuming the photo's are the non flowering ones lol. It sucked as I didn't know which to top lol. She's not to bright but cleans and fucks well so all good lol.
 

Budley Doright

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#1: It's not an "Auto"

#2: it's a sativa. They run long and can run rather long at that.

It's not done - ISK has good advice here. Cpl a weeks, at least.
So sativa starts flowering the middle of June outdoors? If that's the case I gotta get some lol. Am I missing something here? And yes I agree not done but I don't agree that it's a normal photo if started and kept outdoors.
 

Dr. Who

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So sativa starts flowering the middle of June outdoors? If that's the case I gotta get some lol. Am I missing something here? And yes I agree not done but I don't agree that it's a normal photo if started and kept outdoors.
ATF "supposedly" has some Ruderalis in it......Don't know for sure but, that's the "story".

Honest ATF starts bloom around the 4th of July over the 45th parallel, or so it's said.
It runs long and while it's a sativa, it may have had a boost by shading on that balcony. Most Sativa's will revert, Many Indica's not so much......Time drag from lighting? Influenced by old Rud, gene's? Is it really ATF, and if so, what pollinated it?

Phenotype spread can be more then many think. So, it could be an influence by old rud. gene's. Might be the lighting......

There are NO available ATF's as full on auto's......so that's out. My bet is on a combo of each. Some active rud gene with lighting influence.....It's still an photo though...... I'll bet inside growing would show that.....
 

tekdc911

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ATF "supposedly" has some Ruderalis in it......Don't know for sure but, that's the "story".

Honest ATF starts bloom around the 4th of July over the 45th parallel, or so it's said.
It runs long and while it's a sativa, it may have had a boost by shading on that balcony. Most Sativa's will revert, Many Indica's not so much......Time drag from lighting? Influenced by old Rud, gene's? Is it really ATF, and if so, what pollinated it?

Phenotype spread can be more then many think. So, it could be an influence by old rud. gene's. Might be the lighting......

There are NO available ATF's as full on auto's......so that's out. My bet is on a combo of each. Some active rud gene with lighting influence.....It's still an photo though...... I'll bet inside growing would show that.....
+1 im sure it does have some ruderalis in it. but was to bring flower time down and not for the auto trait
 

tekdc911

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its a semi auto ..... 18/6 will flower some plants while other photos need 14/10 or less ..... it was bred to take advantage of the longer days but also be harvest able in a short season ..... youd be hard press to grow a true sativa in alaska using natural light it season is just not long enough ... so outdoors it is a auto since it is just not getting enough light to keep it in veg.... but if he could root a clipping it would prolly reveg under 24/0 it just matured and began to flip to flower like it was 12/12 from seed .... or it is not atf and he really bought a bag of auto somethin or another
So sativa starts flowering the middle of June outdoors? If that's the case I gotta get some lol. Am I missing something here? And yes I agree not done but I don't agree that it's a normal photo if started and kept outdoors.
 
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Budley Doright

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Yup, may have to give it a try if it's got the potency of a good photo and the finishing of an auto. I'm trying Auto Blue Mazar now and the plants are doing very well at 3' and just starting to flower nicely, we'll see, been disappointed for the most part with auto's.
 

Diskokobaja

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Yup, may have to give it a try if it's got the potency of a good photo and the finishing of an auto. I'm trying Auto Blue Mazar now and the plants are doing very well at 3' and just starting to flower nicely, we'll see, been disappointed for the most part with auto's.
WHY?? And what did you grew?
 

Diskokobaja

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Can you name the strains.. I don't consider my self good grower, so if the weed isnt that good I always thinking maybe I screw something up...
 

Dr. Who

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+1 im sure it does have some ruderalis in it. but was to bring flower time down and not for the auto trait
I would suspect that the ruderalis part came kinda naturally. From the location of the strain - found in a particular valley in Alaska.

It's said that finding that exact pheno - in that valley is next to impossible. The variations of the strain are vast...

There are some real high potency pheno's put there for it. Riot has one that he sold for putting potency into breeding projects....Not sure he used it but, sold the pheno for that listed purpose.

Potency lacking and 5-6 strains so far. All outdoor grows and the only one that was ok was think different.
Auto's are getting better.....Still, not my thing.
 

tekdc911

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I would suspect that the ruderalis part came kinda naturally. From the location of the strain - found in a particular valley in Alaska.

It's said that finding that exact pheno - in that valley is next to impossible. The variations of the strain are vast...

There are some real high potency pheno's put there for it. Riot has one that he sold for putting potency into breeding projects....Not sure he used it but, sold the pheno for that listed purpose.



Auto's are getting better.....Still, not my thing.
very true brother ..... story is its sativa x russian ruderalis x afghani they may have used or accidentally crossed with local industrial hemp .... ive done some pretty shitty crosses in the past but had some wonderful plants come from them that could of been narrowed down further sucks breeding auto's on the fly since you dont know what the plant youre using is going to be like until after its done ...
 

tekdc911

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Yup, may have to give it a try if it's got the potency of a good photo and the finishing of an auto. I'm trying Auto Blue Mazar now and the plants are doing very well at 3' and just starting to flower nicely, we'll see, been disappointed for the most part with auto's.
have you grown the AKR's ? i was not that impressed with the mazars personally but the akr stayed in rotation
 

Budley Doright

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I've grown mataro blue auto, which in fact is not a true auto and perhaps somewhat like ATF but needed a short light cycle to bloom. Northern lights auto from crap king seeds, pandora from ???? you'd have to google lol, but it sucked and got bud rot in August (possibly not its fault but the only strain that got it). Can't remember the first one I grew but last years think different was pretty ok but, pheno dependant for the pretty ok stuff, others were just ok lol. I've read a few reviews about the ABM and some were "it's ok", and some were "it's amazing". I've been mostly disappointed even with newer Photo's that are reviewed as "amazing smoke", takes a lot to amaze a guy who has smoked a gazillion pounds since 1974 lol.
 

tekdc911

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I've grown mataro blue auto, which in fact is not a true auto and perhaps somewhat like ATF but needed a short light cycle to bloom. Northern lights auto from crap king seeds, pandora from ???? you'd have to google lol, but it sucked and got bud rot in August (possibly not its fault but the only strain that got it). Can't remember the first one I grew but last years think different was pretty ok but, pheno dependant for the pretty ok stuff, others were just ok lol. I've read a few reviews about the ABM and some were "it's ok", and some were "it's amazing". I've been mostly disappointed even with newer Photo's that are reviewed as "amazing smoke", takes a lot to amaze a guy who has smoked a gazillion pounds since 1974 lol.
green crack is the only thing that has my attention anymore and hands down is my go too..... gets me off my ass with just enough body to help with the pains and spasms i go through due to MS .... positronics purple haze #1 would probably grab your attention as well ;) .... if you havent tried GC then give it a go i smoke alot usually my first 1/4zip of it lasted me and the wife almost two weeks first time we smoked i bout got sick to my stomach its legit one hit and i was big chiefin it like it was girl scout cookies or something lol .... pretty much everything you listed is junk just from my personal think pandora was one of stitches if i remember right ** edit pandora is paradise seeds but once again a crap shoot
 
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whitebb2727

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And the heat should be fine. It's fox tailing is why the buds are stacking like they are
Heat and or genetics can cause it. Usually with sativa dominant plants.

I don't know the time on the particular strain but its got more to go.

I've grown 20+ weeks plants.
 
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