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Javadog

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I am still working to figure sativas out.

I wanted to try my hand at the vaunted Old Timer's Haze, and I have one in the LEC
tent right now. It goes five months (!) and, nearing the end of the cycle it still is not
fully flowering yet. A glutton for punishment, I have added a new Purple Haze and
a Golden Tiger, both also from Ace.

We will see.

JD
 

GroErr

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I am still working to figure sativas out.

I wanted to try my hand at the vaunted Old Timer's Haze, and I have one in the LEC
tent right now. It goes five months (!) and, nearing the end of the cycle it still is not
fully flowering yet. A glutton for punishment, I have added a new Purple Haze and
a Golden Tiger, both also from Ace.

We will see.

JD
They're different beast from what we're normally growing for sure. 20 weeks, wow! That requires some planning to keep them going that long. Bigger pots/more medium are in order and feeding schedule has to be adjusted to keep them healthy for that long. The LEC should help a bit in maturing them faster, good choice and good luck!
 

Underground Scientist

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I am still working to figure sativas out.

I wanted to try my hand at the vaunted Old Timer's Haze, and I have one in the LEC
tent right now. It goes five months (!) and, nearing the end of the cycle it still is not
fully flowering yet. A glutton for punishment, I have added a new Purple Haze and
a Golden Tiger, both also from Ace.

We will see.

JD
Do those pure Sativa's need a little longer dark period?
 

GroErr

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Do those pure Sativa's need a little longer dark period?
Good point, I ran those Panama's 11.5/12.5 with the initiators and finished one at 10 weeks and the other just shy of 11 weeks. They're stated as 11-13 weeks. The LEC's always finished earlier by a week or so for me, combining them with a longer lights-out period could shave sone time off.
 

Underground Scientist

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Good point, I ran those Panama's 11.5/12.5 with the initiators and finished one at 10 weeks and the other just shy of 11 weeks. They're stated as 11-13 weeks. The LEC's always finished earlier by a week or so for me, combining them with a longer lights-out period could shave sone time off.
Right, I was just thinking Initiators could help too, and can't be cutting the light period too much or yield could suffer (like 10/14). A small tweak is probably best.
 

Javadog

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I have to wonder about that too. 10-14 would have to help.

I am wanting to put one outside next year. If I can pay so much
dough for my son to go to college, then I ought to benefit from a
little more freedom. We will see.

You would think that the LEC would shorten this one like it has
so many others Gro, but this doesn't seem to be happening for this breed.

I may have mentioned that I took down a Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream
at 46 (!) Days....in the eighth week, and can report that the smoke rocks.
So the LEC effect is real in my book.

JD
 

GroErr

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@torontoke has been running 8 hour days and 16 hour nights and he says he hasn't lost much yield and they do finish faster.

I know your visit his thread regularly, here's a link for others who haven't;
http://rollitup.org/t/my-8hr-flowering-experiment.865489/page-87#post-13646934
Yeah good thread, I've been following it, not a lot of loss in yield. I'm trying small increments myself to see if I can find a happy medium between yield, quality and finish times. The 11.5/12.5 this round is doing alright, will be able to tell better with the 2x 5 gal clones at the back. Have noticed some loss in yield from the original 12.5/11.5 but shorter finish times, not a bad trade off so far.
 

ttystikk

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Yeah good thread, I've been following it, not a lot of loss in yield. I'm trying small increments myself to see if I can find a happy medium between yield, quality and finish times. The 11.5/12.5 this round is doing alright, will be able to tell better with the 2x 5 gal clones at the back. Have noticed some loss in yield from the original 12.5/11.5 but shorter finish times, not a bad trade off so far.
How much loss of yield?
 

GroErr

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How much loss of yield?
Not huge but I saw ~5-10% depending on the pheno based on 12.5/11.5, but the 12.5/11.5 took at least a week longer to finish. But I ran the 660nm for 2 hours and 11.5/12.5 last round and they ripened a bit early with that. I think that was a bigger effect which is why I ran this round 11.5/12.5 with just the 10 minute initiators. It seems to have made a difference, they're maturing. but not turning the hairs so early. Should fatten up a bit more this round, the Blue Harley will be telling, I should get close to 1 oz. per gallon on that one. The Blue Pyramid should get .70 oz. per gallon to match what I've had in previous runs. The Blue Ripper x Blue Dream I have in 3gal is not one I'd look at for numbers, it's just there to judge finish times this round with those others from seed, it was small coming in so not using it to judge weights.
 

GroErr

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Another light change for the 2x4x5' veg tent, I moved those Chinese COBs into the veg cabinet, they'll do fine in there. They did well vegging these seedlings over the last 10 days or so. They'll be used for seedlings and clones in the cabinet. For the main veg tent I grabbed some individual Citi COBs, 2x 5700k and 1x 4000k totalling 200w. Fit in there well and really easy to hang them, much brighter in there with these vs. the Chinese COBs.

Down to 6 females in there. Instead of culling the other two right away I put them in the veg cabinet, just in case any of these turn out male. There's one AK male that I cloned and threw in the 2x2 tent to flower out with the Blue Ripper males.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Males in the 2x2 Tent. The Blue Ripper F2 front-right is clearly getting ahead of the 2nd pheno to its left. They're a few days into 12/12 now, just starting to stretch. Will cull that male on the left. Back-center is a nice Afghan Kush male pheno, decent structure and smell, just flipped it.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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