They're different beast from what we're normally growing for sure. 20 weeks, wow! That requires some planning to keep them going that long. Bigger pots/more medium are in order and feeding schedule has to be adjusted to keep them healthy for that long. The LEC should help a bit in maturing them faster, good choice and good luck!I am still working to figure sativas out.
I wanted to try my hand at the vaunted Old Timer's Haze, and I have one in the LEC
tent right now. It goes five months (!) and, nearing the end of the cycle it still is not
fully flowering yet. A glutton for punishment, I have added a new Purple Haze and
a Golden Tiger, both also from Ace.
We will see.
JD
Do those pure Sativa's need a little longer dark period?I am still working to figure sativas out.
I wanted to try my hand at the vaunted Old Timer's Haze, and I have one in the LEC
tent right now. It goes five months (!) and, nearing the end of the cycle it still is not
fully flowering yet. A glutton for punishment, I have added a new Purple Haze and
a Golden Tiger, both also from Ace.
We will see.
JD
Good point, I ran those Panama's 11.5/12.5 with the initiators and finished one at 10 weeks and the other just shy of 11 weeks. They're stated as 11-13 weeks. The LEC's always finished earlier by a week or so for me, combining them with a longer lights-out period could shave sone time off.Do those pure Sativa's need a little longer dark period?
Right, I was just thinking Initiators could help too, and can't be cutting the light period too much or yield could suffer (like 10/14). A small tweak is probably best.Good point, I ran those Panama's 11.5/12.5 with the initiators and finished one at 10 weeks and the other just shy of 11 weeks. They're stated as 11-13 weeks. The LEC's always finished earlier by a week or so for me, combining them with a longer lights-out period could shave sone time off.
LEC, initiators, and 10/14, maybe get them down to 18 weeks - lolI am also thinking about switching to 10-14 for the hottest part of the year too.
I still might.
@torontoke has been running 8 hour days and 16 hour nights and he says he hasn't lost much yield and they do finish faster.LEC, initiators, and 10/14, maybe get them down to 18 weeks - lol
Yeah good thread, I've been following it, not a lot of loss in yield. I'm trying small increments myself to see if I can find a happy medium between yield, quality and finish times. The 11.5/12.5 this round is doing alright, will be able to tell better with the 2x 5 gal clones at the back. Have noticed some loss in yield from the original 12.5/11.5 but shorter finish times, not a bad trade off so far.@torontoke has been running 8 hour days and 16 hour nights and he says he hasn't lost much yield and they do finish faster.
I know your visit his thread regularly, here's a link for others who haven't;
http://rollitup.org/t/my-8hr-flowering-experiment.865489/page-87#post-13646934
How much loss of yield?Yeah good thread, I've been following it, not a lot of loss in yield. I'm trying small increments myself to see if I can find a happy medium between yield, quality and finish times. The 11.5/12.5 this round is doing alright, will be able to tell better with the 2x 5 gal clones at the back. Have noticed some loss in yield from the original 12.5/11.5 but shorter finish times, not a bad trade off so far.
Not huge but I saw ~5-10% depending on the pheno based on 12.5/11.5, but the 12.5/11.5 took at least a week longer to finish. But I ran the 660nm for 2 hours and 11.5/12.5 last round and they ripened a bit early with that. I think that was a bigger effect which is why I ran this round 11.5/12.5 with just the 10 minute initiators. It seems to have made a difference, they're maturing. but not turning the hairs so early. Should fatten up a bit more this round, the Blue Harley will be telling, I should get close to 1 oz. per gallon on that one. The Blue Pyramid should get .70 oz. per gallon to match what I've had in previous runs. The Blue Ripper x Blue Dream I have in 3gal is not one I'd look at for numbers, it's just there to judge finish times this round with those others from seed, it was small coming in so not using it to judge weights.How much loss of yield?
Cheers Evil, it's turned out to be a decent pheno, not sure if it's worth keeping but the terps continue getting louder. Definitely a producer considering it had no training. It'll run long, likely 9 weeks.It all looks good but man that Skunk P7 wow!