Barney's Farm Crimea Blue Soil Grow

[ZeroTransFat]

Don't wait! If you have lights give it to them, they will love you for it! Remember the sun is brighter than your CFL's . . .

I hear what you're saying, NewGrowth but my train of thought has always been that seedlings don't require a whole lot of light until they enter the vegetative stage. I was actually afraid that my CFL might be too much light since I see so many people starting seedlings under shoplight tubes. Will the young seedlings benefit from all that light even though they don't have much green matter up top?

 

[ZeroTransFat]

I hear what you're saying, NewGrowth but I've always thought that seedlings don't require a lot of light until they enter the vegetative stage. I was actually afraid my CFL would be too much light since I see so many people starting seedlings under shoplight tubes. Will the young seedlings benefit from additional light, even though they don't have much green up top?

 

[NewGrowth]

I hear what you're saying, NewGrowth but I've always thought that seedlings don't require a lot of light until they enter the vegetative stage. I was actually afraid my CFL would be too much light since I see so many people starting seedlings under shoplight tubes. Will the young seedlings benefit from additional light, even though they don't have much green up top?

The stretch is a sure sign that they are looking for MORE light. So yes they will benefit from the additional light by not stretching, growing faster, and having closer internode space.

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Transplanted today. Moved the Crimea Blues from their styrofoam shacks into luxurious 5 inch square condos. The transplant seemed pretty easy but time will tell.

To remove them from the styrofoam I "rolled" the cups in my hands to loosen the soil. I supported the stem between my 2 main fingers, turned the cup upside down and with a quick shake they slid right out. Each was placed in it's own 5 inch pot filled halfway or so with fresh soil. More soil filled in the sides and a thin layer on top. A few had a hard time staying up so I added a slightly thicker layer to support them.

Each pot was then watered with 1.5 cups (about 350ml) of low strength nutrient solution: 1/2 teaspoon of Pureblend Pro Grow and 1 teaspoon of Hygrozyme per gallon of spring water. I'd say about 1/2 cup leaked out the bottom of each pot before I placed it back in the veg chamber.

Finally I added another CFL to brighten up the space a little. As NewGrowth pointed out, the seedlings are stretching for more light. Since I do have more lights, I'd be kind of a dick not to give it to them. I'll add more tomorrow when I find the rest of my fixtures.

The pics below were taken immediately after the transplant and watering. The plant in the middle just won't stand up so I'm just leaving it alone hoping it will straighten itself out. The last pic is my dog, Jethro. He was my moral support during the transplant and seemed quite intrigued with the process.

 

[crazy-mental]

I hear what you're saying, NewGrowth but I've always thought that seedlings don't require a lot of light until they enter the vegetative stage. I was actually afraid my CFL would be too much light since I see so many people starting seedlings under shoplight tubes. Will the young seedlings benefit from additional light, even though they don't have much green up top?

the seedlings do need light, they need to be 2 to 3" away from flos, or they will stretch and fall over.

move them closer to flo's and get a fan blowing it makes the stems and plant healthyer and stronger.

if they have stretched add a little more soil.

and i thought seedlings like yours are in the vegg state as soon as they start to pop through the soil.
i would go 24/0 untill you goto 12/12.
i have done 18/6 and 24/0 both for vegg and 24/0 seems faster and easyer because you never turn off the light until you goto 12/12.
how long are you planning to vegg for?.

 

[crazy-mental]

they are also looking a little dry and could do with potting on,into bigger pots.

looking good so far?.

what light sced are you using?.

 

[crazy-mental]

Transplanted today. Moved the Crimea Blues from their styrofoam shacks into luxurious 5 inch square condos. The transplant seemed pretty easy but time will tell.

To remove them from the styrofoam I "rolled" the cups in my hands to loosen the soil. I supported the stem between my 2 main fingers, turned the cup upside down and with a quick shake they slid right out. Each was placed in it's own 5 inch pot filled halfway or so with fresh soil. More soil filled in the sides and a thin layer on top. A few had a hard time staying up so I added a slightly thicker layer to support them.

Each pot was then watered with 1.5 cups (about 350ml) of low strength nutrient solution: 1/2 teaspoon of Pureblend Pro Grow and 1 teaspoon of Hygrozyme per gallon of spring water. I'd say about 1/2 cup leaked out the bottom of each pot before I placed it back in the veg chamber.

Finally I added another CFL to brighten up the space a little. As NewGrowth pointed out, the seedlings are stretching for more light. Since I do have more lights, I'd be kind of a dick not to give it to them. I'll add more tomorrow when I find the rest of my fixtures.

The pics below were taken immediately after the transplant and watering. The plant in the middle just won't stand up so I'm just leaving it alone hoping it will straighten itself out. The last pic is my dog, Jethro. He was my moral support during the transplant and seemed quite intrigued with the process.

or for now just fill up the plant trays with soil to the top.
unlit you repott very soon?.

i would pot on from them pots after a week to 10 days or the plant will go rootbound.

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Crazy-Mental, thanks for the advice! Right now the lights are on 24-0. I do have a fan blowing on them and I just put them into bigger pots (the ones in the picture). They may look dry in the picture but those pics were taken immediately after watering.

As far as I know, during the seedling stage most of the growing is done underground to establish a root system. When growth speeds up above ground, that is the vegetative stage? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I plan on vegetating them for 4 to 6 weeks or until they presex.

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Just checked on the Crimeas this morning and all is well. I was nervous, this being my first transplant but they seem to be liking their new home!

 

[crazy-mental]

i know that but vegg means to grow
and flower means to flower.
anyway good luck .
any more pics?.

 

[caddyluck]

hey zero! Crimea Blue is a stout, bushy, hella-fast plant. I vegged mine for like 5-6 weeks, here she is about 24 days into flowering under 400 hps.

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Hell yeah CaddyLuck! Your grow journal is the only reference I have on growing Crimea Blue. You're a true pioneer! Thank you for checking out my grow and any advice you have is welcome any time.

 

[caddyluck]

I will help anyway I can. It loves alot of nutes. It takes a little longer for cuttings to root(10-14 days--compared to 7-9). I NEVER cut healthy fan leaves, but some very minimal pruning was done during veg because the bottom of the plant recieved little light and luckily it was the right call......

Crimea Blue before 2 fan leaves were removed on one side near the top....

3 Days later, the top of the plant is at the far left. Look at the fuckin side that was pruned!!! hell yeah!!

 

[ZeroTransFat]

I will help anyway I can. It loves alot of nutes. It takes a little longer for cuttings to root(10-14 days--compared to 7-9). I NEVER cut healthy fan leaves, but some very minimal pruning was done during veg because the bottom of the plant recieved little light and luckily it was the right call......

Thanks caddyluck! I've been going easy on the nutes till I get a feel for them but they've been borderline yellow for a few days now and I just upped the dose today! They seem to be doing much better since the transplant and the stems have stiffened quite a bit. Tomorrow will be 14 days and the above ground growth is finally taking off.

They now have 3 CFL's with reflectors 2 X 23W and 1 X 30W. I had more but it's been about 7 months since my last grow and I think they found their ways into other lamps in the house! The temps normally stay between 70F and 80F but I've seen them as high as 89F! Will be improving ventilation this weekend and that should help stabilize temps.

No pics today I'm afraid but I'll try and post more this weekend.

 

[hurleyguyy]

Good luck with your grow man! Thanks for stoppin by my journal

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Good luck with your grow man! Thanks for stoppin by my journal

Thanks hurleyguyy, I'll be posting more updates soon!

 

[ZeroTransFat]

I spent the weekend brewing up an aerated vermicompost tea for the Crimea Blue. Mixed it about 50/50 with some spring water and misted it as a foliar spray this morning. I drenched them pretty well about a half hour before lights on and they sagged quite a bit under the weight of the spray. Once the lights came on they shot straight up and look healthier than ever!

Here's some pics from today:

 

[NewGrowth]

Looking good! Glad to hear you added more light.

 

[caddyluck]

lookin good......

 

[ZeroTransFat]

Well, it's been almost 3 weeks now! The Crimea Blue is doing great!

The leaves turned really green after the vermicompost foliar spray I gave them last week. Growth sped up as well. That stuff is awesome and I'm very glad I started a worm farm a few months ago!

I let the soil run pretty much completely dry before giving them a good watering this evening. Growth seems to have slowed from the dry conditions but the leaves are still nice and green so I didn't add fertilizer. Just 1 tablespoon organic molasses and 1 teaspoon hygrozyme per gallon of spring water.

Attached are some pics and any/all comments are greatly appreciated!