Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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ttystikk

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I have a bit of an issue with his age even though based on the evidence I've seen, he seems to be in top condition when it comes to health. By 2020, he'd be pushing 80 years old, from what I understand, age progression multiplies as you get older, so who really knows how long his mental faculties could hold up under such a requirement as president of the United States.. Although his age concerns me to an extent, I am 100% onboard with his overall message, political philosophy, and eventual goals for the Democratic Party to work towards. Things like universal healthcare and college. This doesn't require Bernie Sanders, just a strong base that support the policy positions he has so far championed. Sanders has built a base of politically active millennials willing to go out and spend their own spare time educating people and getting them politically active. The recent election in the UK shows exactly how an election can be affected when the youth come out to vote.
This is the issue that needs to be addressed;
And what can be done, but isn't;
https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/jun/14/tax-evaders-exposed-why-super-rich-are-even-richer-than-we-thought
 

visajoe1

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just for shits and grins and memories. from 2013. anyone have a clue what database she's talking about from the "most transparent administration in history?"

 

ttystikk

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I agree.

Everyone will get violent. Its just at what point.

I'm not advocating it either.

How bad would you let it get before you said enough?
I've been saying enough is enough for years!

What I haven't figured out is how to say it effectively to a wider audience in a way that exhorts us to sustained action and protest- where the neoliberalist State can commit violence and discredit themselves.

It almost happened with Occupy. It should have, but the larger 'news' propaganda dissemination media managed to control the narrative.

Occupy Wall Street was America's Tienanmin Square.

We cannot let the neoliberalist establishment control the narrative and continue driving the planet towards the cliff. We the People need to control the narrative and push back against the idea of wealth bring more qualified to run out world than 'ordinary' citizens.

THEY are the anomalous ones, not the rest of us. And if they're allowed to keep running things, they'll send us off the cliff of the end of civilisation like a bunch of lemmings. Their mistake is the assumption that they might survive such a catastrophe.

https://www.thenation.com/article/noam-chomsky-neoliberalism-destroying-democracy/
 

ttystikk

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At the risk of sounding like another Alex Jones style conspiracy theorist, I submit the following thought experiment for your careful consideration;

I firmly believe our government is engaged in ongoing black operations against the American People in order to prevent events like another Occupy Wall Street or similar such civil disobedience event from occurring. They've done it before; the FBI has been involved in such operations against Martin Luther King Jr's civil rights movement, the Black Panthers and many more.

In modern times the CIA has been authorized to run similar operations, not only against foreign governments but also against Americans, so it would actually surprise me if they WEREN'T also working to subvert American citizen's rights to protest and question the policies of our government.

This would be the malevolent core of what's often vaguely referred to as the 'deep state', but make no assumptions that such operations might be operating outside of the desires of those in power. If you were among the elites, wouldn't YOU be doing the same thing? They clearly don't give one single damn about our civil rights or the rule of law, and their excuse would always be 'maintaining the peace/preserving order'. THEIR order, of course.

The fingerprints of such an ongoing campaign are visible if one knows what to look for.

It's only paranoia if it isn't true.
 

Drowning-Man

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At the risk of sounding like another Alex Jones style conspiracy theorist, I submit the following thought experiment for your careful consideration;

I firmly believe our government is engaged in ongoing black operations against the American People in order to prevent events like another Occupy Wall Street or similar such civil disobedience event from occurring. They've done it before; the FBI has been involved in such operations against Martin Luther King Jr's civil rights movement, the Black Panthers and many more.

In modern times the CIA has been authorized to run similar operations, not only against foreign governments but also against Americans, so it would actually surprise me if they WEREN'T also working to subvert American citizen's rights to protest and question the policies of our government.

This would be the malevolent core of what's often vaguely referred to as the 'deep state', but make no assumptions that such operations might be operating outside of the desires of those in power. If you were among the elites, wouldn't YOU be doing the same thing? They clearly don't give one single damn about our civil rights or the rule of law, and their excuse would always be 'maintaining the peace/preserving order'. THEIR order, of course.

The fingerprints of such an ongoing campaign are visible if one knows what to look for.

It's only paranoia if it isn't true.
They rather us fight each other then fight them. A divided people are a conquered people
 

ANC

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Incorrect. Every time you personally take out a loan you personally create "money" that did not exist before.
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As someone who studied banking after school, this is not correct or not as infinite, at least. Governments set a ratio of deposits vs loans. In my country, they can "create" loans of 150% of deposits. (wasn't always that bad until the ANC forced banks to take on government debt). Anyway, this means for every $100 deposited at the bank, the bank can create $150 of loans. Which is why they fear everyone asking for their money back at the same time, most of all.

If you want to fuck with a country, get everyone to line up at the banks at the same time, and start withdrawing every last cent.
 

ttystikk

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At the risk of sounding like another Alex Jones style conspiracy theorist, I submit the following thought experiment for your careful consideration;

I firmly believe our government is engaged in ongoing black operations against the American People in order to prevent events like another Occupy Wall Street or similar such civil disobedience event from occurring. They've done it before; the FBI has been involved in such operations against Martin Luther King Jr's civil rights movement, the Black Panthers and many more.

In modern times the CIA has been authorized to run similar operations, not only against foreign governments but also against Americans, so it would actually surprise me if they WEREN'T also working to subvert American citizen's rights to protest and question the policies of our government.

This would be the malevolent core of what's often vaguely referred to as the 'deep state', but make no assumptions that such operations might be operating outside of the desires of those in power. If you were among the elites, wouldn't YOU be doing the same thing? They clearly don't give one single damn about our civil rights or the rule of law, and their excuse would always be 'maintaining the peace/preserving order'. THEIR order, of course.

The fingerprints of such an ongoing campaign are visible if one knows what to look for.

It's only paranoia if it isn't true.
It's only paranoia if it's NOT true;

FBI spies on protest groups;
https://www.aclu.org/news/fbi-counterterrorism-unit-spies-peaceful-faith-based-protest-group

NSA gathers EVERY domestic phone conversation;
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/08/nsa-whistleblowers-nsa-collects-word-for-word-every-domestic-communication.html

FBI makes inappropriate requests for these conversations regularly;
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/government_programs-jan-june07-patriotact_03-09/

In other words, the Federal Government says, "FUCK your constitutional right to privacy!"
 

ttystikk

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As someone who studied banking after school, this is not correct or not as infinite, at least. Governments set a ratio of deposits vs loans. In my country, they can "create" loans of 150% of deposits. (wasn't always that bad until the ANC forced banks to take on government debt). Anyway, this means for every $100 deposited at the bank, the bank can create $150 of loans. Which is why they fear everyone asking for their money back at the same time, most of all.

If you want to fuck with a country, get everyone to line up at the banks at the same time, and start withdrawing every last cent.
That won't happen in the States because the biggest accounts are held by those whose interest is firmly to see the bank survive such runs. The proletariat simply don't amount to enough to worry about.
 
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