The Vault’s Sour Livers Auto Comparative Grow – in association with Mephisto Genetics

johnp410

johnp410

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johnp410 said:
Here's a pic of the crew, pulled waffles bud. Bottom right is the one that was topped it's coming along pretty well, got her opened up too. Top left is Skywalker. That's the only one that isn't sour livers. Don't know if y'all remember but I was trying to include the Skywalker because I was accepted for comparative grow, planted 3 and couldn't finish. I was left with 2 only one made it. Either way here they are.
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Top right is Skywalker sorry.
 
Gaz29

Gaz29

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johnp410 said:
Looking good. Can't wait until mine get there, just starting to put on more hairs. What are you feeding them ladies?
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Cheers @johnp410, I fed them sum bio-bizz grow and bloom nutes and they are in bio-bizz 'all-mix' soil which has nutes good for a few weeks at early stage, but they're not too heavy feeders..
not gonna yield much but the bud is rock hard.. mine should be ready in a week or so..
Happy growing
Gaz
 
johnp410

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cindysid said:
It's been raining here for the last two days and I went out to check her this afternoon. She was covered with mold. I managed to salvage about 200 mature seeds. I cleaned them carefully with some peroxide and have them on a tray to dry.
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That's terrible, at least you got some beans though. You use straight peroxide? Hopefully I'm done with rain mine aren't kicked into full flower yet but will be any day now. I hope your beans are ok and bless you with 200 beautiful plants. May the grow gods bless you...
 
johnp410

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Gaz29 said:
Cheers @johnp410, I fed them sum bio-bizz grow and bloom nutes and they are in bio-bizz 'all-mix' soil which has nutes good for a few weeks at early stage, but they're not too heavy feeders..
not gonna yield much but the bud is rock hard.. mine should be ready in a week or so..
Happy growing
Gaz
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I've seen other people say that, you know your ppm or ec? I've been hitting them with 800-1100 my tap is 200 alone. I started 1/4 strength because of other post id seen, I usually start with 1/2. But I gradually increase the feed and the seem to be doing fine. I'm going to flush and feed with yucca next week then go again.
 
cindysid

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johnp410 said:
That's terrible, at least you got some beans though. You use straight peroxide? Hopefully I'm done with rain mine aren't kicked into full flower yet but will be any day now. I hope your beans are ok and bless you with 200 beautiful plants. May the grow gods bless you...
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I used straight peroxide. Just enough to wipe off any mold. I've done it before with good results. I don't know if it's necessary, but it makes me feel better! lol It was a shame to trash the plant. I managed to save a couple of unaffected buds, so at least I'll get a sample. Plenty of seeds to share anyway.. Hope yours do better!
 
johnp410

johnp410

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cindysid said:
I used straight peroxide. Just enough to wipe off any mold. I've done it before with good results. I don't know if it's necessary, but it makes me feel better! lol It was a shame to trash the plant. I managed to save a couple of unaffected buds, so at least I'll get a sample. Plenty of seeds to share anyway.. Hope yours do better!
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More experienced than me, I've never made seed. I just wondered cause of what I've heard about killing good and bad bacteria with peroxide. Sharing is caring. "wink" "wink" lol
I hope it smokes good, how'd she smell?
And thanks
 
johnp410

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Here's the one I topped, probably set it back some, bad timing. She's pulling it together though. Fed with fox farm
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Here's another sour livers accompanied by the loan Skywalker from mephisto. Slight lst and fed with fox farm, the Skywalker is fed with peters aka jacks classic 20-20-20. Everything gets added dynagro protekt through till the last half of flower, and super thrive until the show signs of flower.
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These are sour livers, both fed with peters and the other stuff I said I used lol obviously the one on left is in 5 gallon I'd say it's more like 4.5 gallons of soil. Only real difference. Im pretty much sold on the idea that 5 gallons are a waste of soil with autos unless your dealing with something you know is going to get big. I think mephisto considers sour livers to be a medium sized plant. Alot of their genetics call for 12 to 15 liters of soil with the exception of Ripley's og and hubbabubbasmellascope. Those two stock out to me as far as large container sizes. I've got some of their northern cheese haze and man bear alien pig which are supposed to get some size to them, we'll see. I'm definitely excited for those, as well as these. They've (mephisto) has some new shit dropping this month, really good crosses as usual, I can't wait for. I was new to them at the beginning of this grow, now I've seen more of what they do and have to offer. Mephisto really brings it with autos. I've heard talk of them possibly doing some photos. Not sure how accurate that is but I'd say bring it if so. Lol
How's everyone doing? Good I hope. May the grow gods bless you....
 
thewanderer718

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Update on my sour livers, this is the one i am growing outside in a 1.75 gallon pot in fox farm soil. To tell the truth i completely forgot about this plant I never even gave it any nut's, we have had a lot of rain, i think i have only watered it once or twice.
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cindysid

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thewanderer718 said:
Update on my sour livers, this is the one i am growing outside in a 1.75 gallon pot in fox farm soil. To tell the truth i completely forgot about this plant I never even gave it any nut's, we have had a lot of rain, i think i have only watered it once or twice.
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Just watch out for mold when she gets late in flower. Mine got totally destroyed by it.
 
cindysid

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thewanderer718 said:
Thanks for the heads up. That's what i love about these comparative grows the shared knowledge has saved me soooo much headaches, time, and money.
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I think part of the problem with mine is that I had moved it to a part of the yard that didn't get much sun. I was forced to do so because I had a remodeling crew working in the sunny area for a couple of days. I think the rain and lack of sun to dry it out made a perfect environment for mold. It has also been raining here nearly every day. Now I remember why I don't grow outdoors in the Summer here.
 
johnp410

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cindysid said:
I think part of the problem with mine is that I had moved it to a part of the yard that didn't get much sun. I was forced to do so because I had a remodeling crew working in the sunny area for a couple of days. I think the rain and lack of sun to dry it out made a perfect environment for mold. It has also been raining here nearly every day. Now I remember why I don't grow outdoors in the Summer here.
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U have any pics of the final product?
 
johnp410

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cindysid said:
No, I wish I had taken some now. The couple of lower buds I managed to save are pretty pitiful, but it was my fault. Luckily, it wasn't my only plant..lol
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Cool. I think I found some nice autos to breed with. Green work collective has them. And you can order from DC seed exchange. They're on here somewhere. Worth checking out. I'm going to get some definitely. You have more sour livers or?
 
cindysid

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johnp410 said:
Cool. I think I found some nice autos to breed with. Green work collective has them. And you can order from DC seed exchange. They're on here somewhere. Worth checking out. I'm going to get some definitely. You have more sour livers or?
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That's the only one that germinated. I have plenty of sour livers x honeybee seeds though. I will be trying them out later this Summer.
 
johnp410

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cindysid said:
That's the only one that germinated. I have plenty of sour livers x honeybee seeds though. I will be trying them out later this Summer.
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Nice. I can't wait to try and breed my own. The seed company I mentioned has some nice gear. Only a handful of strains available, but they're geared towards breeding. I'm interested in the livers strains. Underground originals has some that look promising, but first I think I'm going to try ordering the others and more sour livers from mephisto and breeding them. Mephisto has some new illuminautos dropping the end of this month, and they're getting some of their strains that were out of stock back in now. I've since turned into a mephisto freak lol ordering direct you can't go wrong either, I ordered 9 and got 29. I also ordered their super soil amendment and a sticker pack. Good group of guys at Mephisto. Can't wait to see how your sour honeys turn out lol
 
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