Canadian plant restrictions coming.

GroErr

GroErr

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DigitalTorture said:
I did read somewhere in the final report that was released alongside the bill that the ability for provinces and whatnot to be able to impose a registry or such. I'll have to re read it when I have a chance.

The part about the seeds is what really gets my goat. I guess it's back to being an outlaw.
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Yeah the seeds is my no registration and under the radar driver, I won't accept anything less than legal, meaning choice and freedom. I'm not interested in selling but I won't be limited to what and how I grow my own meds.

DigitalTorture said:
I think what they are going to do is have a registry of people "allowed" to do a home grow. All starting materials and information about the grow will be tied into that. Then they will make you sign a waiver allowing them to inspect without notice. So this will be put into the agreement. Don't sign and you will be considered "illicit CANNABIS"
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It's certainly possible provincially, no mention of it federally. So I wouldn't doubt if the odd province tries a registry, something like the failed gun registry program :(

Any registration to me is not "legal" and I won't be any part of it, rec or medical. It makes you an instant target for whatever changes in federal, provincial, or municipal government of the day decide to implement. Including idiots like Kellie Leitch who's stated she'd repeal legalization "when" she gets elected in 2019 - ha, ha, ha...
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Differences between Cannabis Act and Tobacco Act. At the beginning they both state the "purpose" of the Act. The parts that are different are in italics.

Tobacco Act;

4 The purpose of this Act is to provide a legislative response to a national public health problem of substantial and pressing concern and, in particular,
(a) to protect the health of Canadians in light of conclusive evidence implicating tobacco use in the incidence of numerous debilitating and fatal diseases;
(b) to protect young persons and others from inducements to use tobacco products and the consequent dependence on them;
(c) to protect the health of young persons by restricting access to tobacco products; and
(d) to enhance public awareness of the health hazards
of using tobacco products

Cannabis Act;

The purpose of this Act is to protect public health and public safety and, in particular, to
(a) protect the health of young persons by restricting their access to cannabis;
(b) protect young persons and others from inducements to use cannabis;
(c) provide for the licit production of cannabis to reduce illicit activities in relation to cannabis;

(d) deter illicit activities in relation to cannabis through appropriate sanctions and enforcement measures;

(e) reduce the burden on the criminal justice system in relation to cannabis;

(f) provide access to a quality-controlled supply of cannabis; and
(g) enhance public awareness of the health risks associated with cannabis use

My question is why the additional purposes? And why is it illegal to mail tobacco between Provinces but not Cannabis? Alcohol also can't be moved between Provinces. Why is Canopy Growth Corp allowed to sell by mail nationwide? To be reasonable, all Cannabis sold in any Province should have to be produced there, or else open up mail order tobacco. And why is it not illegal to possess "illicit" tobacco like Cannabis?
 
DigitalTorture

DigitalTorture

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BobCajun said:
Differences between Cannabis Act and Tobacco Act. At the beginning they both state the "purpose" of the Act. The parts that are different are in italics.

Tobacco Act;

4 The purpose of this Act is to provide a legislative response to a national public health problem of substantial and pressing concern and, in particular,
(a) to protect the health of Canadians in light of conclusive evidence implicating tobacco use in the incidence of numerous debilitating and fatal diseases;
(b) to protect young persons and others from inducements to use tobacco products and the consequent dependence on them;
(c) to protect the health of young persons by restricting access to tobacco products; and
(d) to enhance public awareness of the health hazards
of using tobacco products

Cannabis Act;

The purpose of this Act is to protect public health and public safety and, in particular, to
(a) protect the health of young persons by restricting their access to cannabis;
(b) protect young persons and others from inducements to use cannabis;
(c) provide for the licit production of cannabis to reduce illicit activities in relation to cannabis;

(d) deter illicit activities in relation to cannabis through appropriate sanctions and enforcement measures;

(e) reduce the burden on the criminal justice system in relation to cannabis;

(f) provide access to a quality-controlled supply of cannabis; and
(g) enhance public awareness of the health risks associated with cannabis use

My question is why the additional purposes? And why is it illegal to mail tobacco between Provinces but not Cannabis? Alcohol also can't be moved between Provinces. Why is Canopy Growth Corp allowed to sell by mail nationwide? To be reasonable, all Cannabis sold in any Province should have to be produced there, or else open up mail order tobacco. And why is it not illegal to possess "illicit" tobacco like Cannabis?
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Very good questions.
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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DigitalTorture said:
Very good questions.
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Yes, and ones that will never be asked by any politician of any party in Parliament, because they're all involved in the conflict of interest in which they profit personally from this farce of a Cannabis Act. If anybody investigated thoroughly they'd find a long list of politicians who intend to get rich from selling dope. THAT is why even the PC party has long since stopped objecting and started encouraging the fuckery.

I suggest that everyone who ever voted PC contact their MLA and tell them "screw you and your drug pushing excuse for a conservative party", if there's actually any PC MLAs in existence. If not, just choose any PC party at random and blast them for being vile and disgusting sell outs, to pretty much anything really, stupid wind turbines, selling dope, you name it. The takeover of the dope industry is just their latest strategy to get richer than ever while doing as little possible and screwing over the citizenry worse than ever. You know, stuff like "only the dope you buy from our guys is legal. All other dope is still illegal. Same plant, just it's illegal cuz we won't make any money from it. There's two kinds of THC, the kind our guys sell and the illegal kind. Our's you can possess, everybody else's you can't. Cuz we are dictators, hahaha, suckers".
 
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EvilJayP

EvilJayP

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DigitalTorture said:
I'm not worried about anything. I don't like the idea of a person coming into my house with a measuring tape. That or having to report what I'm doing to anyone.
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That is how I feel about registering as a patient ..but I did it to comply with the law..and
With the republicans in charge ...who the fuck knows ,they could use the list call us criminals again and then round everyone up We the people have given the government way too much control over our personal lives ..
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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EvilJayP said:
That is how I feel about registering as a patient ..but I did it to comply with the law..and
With the republicans in charge ...who the fuck knows ,they could use the list call us criminals again and then round everyone up We the people have given the government way too much control over our personal lives ..
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Be very aware lol. That is exactly what happened here. Everyone that registered as a med grower was eventually ordered to stop and were subject to inspection to force compliance, thankfully there is an injunction in place for those that were already approved but still. I was always skepticle of giving any info about what I did and never applied, thank god I didn't.​
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Is there a personal use exemption?
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The Tobacco Tax Act provides for exemptions that allow an individual to:

  • produce and process for his or her own personal use, and not for sale, up to 15 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco per calendar year
  • buy up to 3 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco for his or her own personal use
  • import up to 3 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco for his or her own personal use
  • export up to 3 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco for his or her own personal use
  • transport up to 5 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco for his or her own or another individual's personal use.
This means you do not require a registration certificate under the Tobacco Tax Act for the above activities provided they do not exceed the maximum weight allowed.

In addition, the personal use exemption allows the sale or delivery of up to 3 kilograms of raw leaf tobacco to an individual for their own personal use.

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http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/tax/tt/rawleaf.html
 
ThcGuy

ThcGuy

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100cm height restrictions? Easy to do in a grow room but as soon as the grow goes outside you are at the mercy of nature. I guess you could just chop the top off when it stretches during flowering.
 
Drowning-Man

Drowning-Man

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BobCajun said:
It's really 6 plants anyway, because all that happens with 6 is a fine. Considering there's a 99.99% chance that no cops will ever be counting or measuring your plants, I'd say it's worth the risk. I don't recall what happens if the plants are taller, same thing probably. Also the 30 gram limit is really something like 50, if you don't mind risking a fine.
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Shit i spent 3 months in county in texas for .5 grams
 
Drowning-Man

Drowning-Man

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BobCajun said:
That was rough. They fed you for 3 months on the public purse for nothing really. Generous folk I guess. Cost them probably a few grand to punish you for about $5 worth of weed. Geniuses at work.
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And decided they were doctors and i didnt need my medication
 
DigitalTorture

DigitalTorture

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BobCajun said:
Bad news, Bill C-45 passed 2nd reading yesterday. Here's the vote results. The Conservatives put up a valiant fight, except for one turncoat, Scott Reid. The NDP, being huge sellouts, all voted yes. Let this be a lesson to all those who voted NDP. I blame you for this. The nation HAD to vote Liberal, to get rid of Harper, but it could have used a better distribution of Cons and NDPs. They've formed a dark alliance with the Libtards to ruin the country in order to enrich themselves, and especially to ruin Alberta, to hit Canada right in its "nuts", if you will. Their evil knows no bounds.

It still needs to pass a 3rd reading and then the Senate. Weren't most of the Senators appointed by Harper? Might be a chance yet. There's only 18 Liberal senators. There's 38 "CPC" and 35 Independent Senators Group, supposedly non-affiliated to any political party. The Libs may have a majority in the government but they don't in the Senate, and they have to pass it.
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And just why is this bad news? Who the hell cares about the politics of it all? Go argue that shit somewhere else.
 
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