WTF is wrong with California

Fogdog

Fogdog

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goldberg71b said:
Arguing with these people won't get you anywhere. They're blind and oblivious to the facts! All I want is personal responsibility and the laws enforced! If you disagree with a law CHANGE/REPEAL it! Everyone of us makes our own choices. They all have consequences and the only person to blame when those choices lead to LAW breaking is THEMSELVES.

I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THEY BROKE THE LAW THE MOMENT THEY CROSSED THE BORDER. If THEY brought THEIR kids with them. Those kids have ONLY one place to point their fingers for their problems. AND THATS THEIR PARENTS! It was their parents who put them in the situation they're in. NOT THE USA!

The only way they maintain a LEGAL job is with FAKE IDs and SS#s. Which is another law being broke. Then they get arrested for anything and we are just supposed to forget they broke those laws. Their kids have been sucking money out of the school systems for decades. complicating the schools ability to actually teach kids that are of LEGAL citizens. There are schools where more than 100 languages are being used. There are many more issues but I won't get in to that. We are already 20 trillion in debt. We need to stop giving away our revenue to ILLEGALS in any way shape or form!

If the ILLEGALS children have problems I don't care. Let their parents take their personal responsibility for it! If you or I broke the law we'd be locked up. So as you've noted when an illegal gets charges dropped so ICE isn't called. Or judges let ILLEGALS exit courts out of staff exits so that ILLEGAL can avoid ICE officials. There certainly is a problem and it's with our elected officials who IGNORE the laws and the ILLEGALS breaking them and OUR bias local law enforcement.

I hear all this about how some nationalities believe cops target them unfairly. But I hear nothing about ILLEGALS getting preferential treatment. Why is that?

Choosing not to release the amounts of drugs a person has been caught with to avoid mandatory minimums. Or ignoring a DUI so officials need not involve ICE. Yes there's a huge problem with that. But you'll never convince the mob here of it.

Remember these are the same people who believed they could keep their doctor. As well as you can insure 30 million more people with no more doctors and at lower costs. You can take politics out of it and we all know that's completely impossible. We have a doctor shortage for gods sakes. So adding 30 million people without adding doctors does exactly what good? Pick any product and tell me how you get 30 million more of them at a lower total price?
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How interesting and useful this is.

Your use of caps were particularly effective.

I realize you probably don't know this but your arguments are exactly the same ones used by white nationalists a hundred years ago to keep Italians and Chinese out of the country.

You make this into a morality issue. THEY BROKE THE LAW!

I'll make this an economic issue: 30,000 extra ICE officers -- wages, retirement benefits, health care benies, and all the corruption they bring with them due to an edict to hire them quickly. For what? To reduce the work force by 5% and throw economic sectors into chaos. This makes no sense. It's like spending money on new upholstery for an old broken down car. Oh and let's not forget that fucking wall that will cost 50 billion to build.
 
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goldberg71b

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Fogdog said:
How interesting and useful this is.

Your use caps were particularly effective.

I realize you probably don't know this but your arguments are exactly the same ones used by white nationalists a hundred years ago to keep Italians and Chinese out of the country.

You make this into a morality issue. THEY BROKE THE LAW!

I'll make this an economic issue: 30,000 extra ICE officers -- wages, retirement benefits, health care benies, and all the corruption they bring with them due to an edict to hire them quickly. For what? To reduce the work force by 5% and throw economic sectors into chaos. This makes no sense. It's like spending money on new upholstery for an old broken down car. Oh and let's not forget that fucking wall that will cost 50 billion to build.
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So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
 
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goldberg71b

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UncleBuck said:
so you want them to throw your illegal ass into federal prison for felony cannabis cultivation?

why not just go turn yourself in, ya filthy illegal?
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Personal responsibility for my choices. If I got caught driving drunk I'd expect to go to jail wouldn't you? But if I were illegal I might only be charged with J walking so they wouldn't have to report me to ICE?!!!!
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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goldberg71b said:
So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
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Reported (again) as obvious LEO.

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dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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goldberg71b said:
So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
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Anyone else hear that whoooosh sound?
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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goldberg71b said:
So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
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What if I told you we as a nation are losing money because they don't have a SS number .
problem solved.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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goldberg71b said:
So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
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goldberg71b said:
Personal responsibility for my choices. If I got caught driving drunk I'd expect to go to jail wouldn't you? But if I were illegal I might only be charged with J walking so they wouldn't have to report me to ICE?!!!!
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goldberg71b said:
:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
MOB IS OUT IN FULL FORCE NOW
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Reported as narc phishing/meltdown.

Take a few deeeeeeeep breaths, Cartman.

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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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goldberg71b said:
Personal responsibility for my choices.
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you said you wanted two things: personal responsibility and the law enforced.

you're in a perfect position to make both of those things happen by turning yourself in for felony cannabis cultivation. go sit your ass in prison for 5 years or so, bitch.

that is, of course, unless you think ILLEGALS like you don't deserve the same treatment as the ILLEGALS who only committed a misdemeanor illegal entry.

which is it, bitch? you gonna turn your ILLEGAL ass in?
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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UncleBuck said:
you said you wanted two things: personal responsibility and the law enforced.

you're in a perfect position to make both of those things happen by turning yourself in for felony cannabis cultivation. go sit your ass in prison for 5 years or so, bitch.

that is, of course, unless you think ILLEGALS like you don't deserve the same treatment as the ILLEGALS who only committed a misdemeanor illegal entry.

which is it, bitch? you gonna turn your ILLEGAL ass in?
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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goldberg71b said:
So you have a problem paying wages to enforce laws? But no problem spending money on those who break law? No problem with states creating funds in the 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money to pay the legal fees of ILLEGAL ALIENS caught breaking our laws? I'd rather see that money spent on LEGAL US CITIZENS or repairing infrastructure OR helping the homeless citizens. Anything but supporting ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'd gladly pay any amount for that wall. Just add a tax to all western union payments being sent home to the families of the ILLEGALS working here.
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I have a problem with foolishness especially when it is foolish use of tax money.

You are too busy using caps to read facts. Facts are illegal immigrants are paying more in taxes -- they are a net benefit to the country. Facts are they are causing fewer problems than you white math-challenged morons and doing jobs that our "highly educated" work force won't do. Facts are, these people add to our economy overall. Facts are these people are fathers and mothers of US citizens. Trump's so-called plan addresses none of these facts. I suppose you also think that facts don't have to be true. LOL
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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cool2burn said:
No i was just pointing out your pay is not all that great.
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It is for my area.

Like you can even afford to pay someone.


Using all my gear and tools you are getting 10-12 an hour. Got your own tools and shit I pay more. When I worked skilled trade in this area I mad just shy of 20 bucks an hour as an industrial electrician and main tech.
That's tops where I'm at unless its a union gig.

10-12 here is actually more than most places pay.


I wasn't bragging about it either.
 
tampee

tampee

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cool2burn said:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/18/ice-arrests-under-trump-jump-40-percent-as-border-crossings-drop.html

I understand them not wanting to turn illegals over for deportation however while reading this i hit this little tidbit :

"The Los Angeles Police Commission is considering a proposal to ignore crimes like loitering, graffiti, and sleeping in cars to counter immigrant fears that ICE will track police arrests, leading to their deportation for minor crimes. But opponents blame such policies for the rise in non-criminal immigrant arrests."

So let me get this right too shield people in this country illegally you want to adopt policies that ignore common sense law like loitering "pssst" that is where the drug dealers are.... Owe and it is OK to damage people property with graffiti now because you know we can not arrest any illegals because they might be deported. You might not like the source but i take real issue with the Los Angeles Police Commission's thought process.
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It seems California has some of the dirtiest water in the country, good place to begin investigating the mind of Californians.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Grandpapy said:
Perhaps they understand the upper limits of Capitalism better then you.

Another tax burden they avoid.
Abortion in China is legal and is a government service available on request for women

Much cheaper then feeding a Prison industry, and exhausting police/justice Budget.

But hey, if I did move would Boeing hire me?
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My only regret that your ironies are lost on the vacuous.
 
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