Cloning issues

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JDMase

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hey everyone, I followed the grow weed easy 7-10 guide on how to clone and im struggling. My leaves are wilting and dying, I suspect my scissors weren't clean, as I pulled a few that died completely out and their stems under the rockwool were black and withered.

Has anyone got tips??

Feeding plain water ph'd with hydroguard as of 2 days ago. Clones are roughly two weeks old and no signs of rooting anywhere.
 

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ManBat

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one educated guess.... the point of time when you snip the chosen stem to applying the rooting gel.... optimally you do not want any air pockets entering. apply the gel immediately dont wait to long...

youll also want high humidity as apposed to constantly keeping it wet
 
cindysid

cindysid

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They are probably too wet. They like to be damp, not soaking wet. I doubt it was your scissors. I don't worry about having sterile tools. I use the same razor blade for 50 clones without cleaning it. I have even used an old blade in a pinch, and my clones root just fine. The only times I've had problems with cloning is when I got my cubes too wet, or I didn't change the water in the tray often enough. I refresh the water every 3 days. The air bubble thing is pretty much a myth in my opinion also. Never had that problem and I've made 100s of clones.
 
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JDMase

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Thanks guys, I opened a few clones that I thought were dead, stems pale and leaves shrivelled, I opened a few up with tiny hairs, my third had small white bumps all down it, I quickly shoved it back in and i damn well hope it roots!

I dried out my cubes and just watered them by wetting the tray with water and bennies, gave it 5 minutes to absorb and I'll pour the excess away, thanks! I'll write back if I manage to get any roots :)
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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JDMase said:
I have one, the guide I read told me to take it off after like day 10, ive since put it back on but with it raised an inch or so
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Try an aero cloner. Works for me...I don't like the jiffy things, nor do I use soil for cloning. It's all about the right amount of moisture and oxygen at the root zone that initiates development. Also throw your cloning gels in the trash. The plant makes its own hormone.
 
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JDMase

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dannyboy602 said:
Try an aero cloner. Works for me...I don't like the jiffy things, nor do I use soil for cloning. It's all about the right amount of moisture and oxygen at the root zone that initiates development. Also throw your cloning gels in the trash. The plant makes its own hormone.
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I'll look into one thanks! It's annoying as I just want a few clones to help me go perpetual. Don't really want to invest so much money into it.

Ive placed a cutting straight into water and we will see how she goes.
 
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JDMase

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cindysid said:
They are probably too wet. They like to be damp, not soaking wet. I doubt it was your scissors. I don't worry about having sterile tools. I use the same razor blade for 50 clones without cleaning it. I have even used an old blade in a pinch, and my clones root just fine. The only times I've had problems with cloning is when I got my cubes too wet, or I didn't change the water in the tray often enough. I refresh the water every 3 days. The air bubble thing is pretty much a myth in my opinion also. Never had that problem and I've made 100s of clones.
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That air bubble being a myth thing made me remember that my grandmother used to take cuttings from neighbours gardens when she would walk her dog, she used to put them in a "wet hanky" or rather a wet piece of cloth or tissue. She would then place them into a cup of water with some success, I'll have to speak to my dad and see if he knows any more. Those cuttings would be in a damp cloth for half an hour before it went anywhere.
 
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JDMase

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Still no roots showing, ive got my cutting in water going brown slightly. Must be that my temps are too warm..?
Ive got some root riot cubes, gonna give them a go in a make shift humidity dome and place them on the window and see how those do.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Too warm or too little oxygen in the water.

I know I have said this before but its worth repeating.

Buy a bag of perlite for a couple of quid.
Fill every other cell in your seed tray.
Fill the base your using with some water, enough so you can see it in the empty cells in the seed tray.
Pop some fresh cutting in there and jobs done.

When you cut your clones, take them with a few nodes, pop em in a glass of water while your working on them.
One out, snip snip, remove lowest nodes and leaves, trim top leaves, dip in cloning gel or not depending on if you have it. Pop it in a cell with perlite so stems on bottom. On to the next one. Jobs a good n. No spray, no dome. Roots in about 10 days depending on how cool or hot it is in there.

Do you have them under your cmh? Or another light source?

Edit, I have just potted all mine up or I would take a photo to show how delighted they are.
They don't ever wilt from cutting them to repotting.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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JDMase said:
That air bubble being a myth thing made me remember that my grandmother used to take cuttings from neighbours gardens when she would walk her dog, she used to put them in a "wet hanky" or rather a wet piece of cloth or tissue. She would then place them into a cup of water with some success, I'll have to speak to my dad and see if he knows any more. Those cuttings would be in a damp cloth for half an hour before it went anywhere.
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I can mist my cuttings and store them in the crisper drawer in a bag for almost two weeks while still viable for thought.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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Maybe this will help you, I use 1.5" rockwool cubes dry wt. 5gm
After 15 min soak time, Total saturation w/freshwater: 67gm
I shake (snap of the wrist) excess water out about 15-20 times for a wt of 25-30 gm.
then place clone in block. try to maintain this wt..
Depending on the strain it can take 14 days (wifi, thanks aero!) or as few as 5 (koko, thanks Dr.!)
Noting but water to start, you dont want lazy plants.
 
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JDMase

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coreywebster said:
Too warm or too little oxygen in the water.

I know I have said this before but its worth repeating.

Buy a bag of perlite for a couple of quid.
Fill every other cell in your seed tray.
Fill the base your using with some water, enough so you can see it in the empty cells in the seed tray.
Pop some fresh cutting in there and jobs done.

When you cut your clones, take them with a few nodes, pop em in a glass of water while your working on them.
One out, snip snip, remove lowest nodes and leaves, trim top leaves, dip in cloning gel or not depending on if you have it. Pop it in a cell with perlite so stems on bottom. On to the next one. Jobs a good n. No spray, no dome. Roots in about 10 days depending on how cool or hot it is in there.

Do you have them under your cmh? Or another light source?

Edit, I have just potted all mine up or I would take a photo to show how delighted they are.
They don't ever wilt from cutting them to repotting.
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I think I'll give that a go next, you use that method solely? Ive never seen it written about.
Everything else you wrote in terms of method I do exactly.

Watching a man on YouTube give a lecture he says not to lift the humidity dome until rooted, im not sure whether that means roots out the bottom of the cubes, roots in general or what, im going to assume roots out of the bottom because I can't imagine you'd be pulling your clones out to check.

My clones are under a 125w cfl at around 50cm away. No heat mat but the tent is atop another tent which is fairly warm (another 125w cfl in there for veg)
 
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