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Vato_504

Vato_504

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genuity said:
All True But The Breeder part....That Shit Gets You In A World Of shit"breeder"

That word is starting to scare me..

Chucker this way,plus no one wants to use a chuckers seeds in they breeding rooms.
So it's a ++.

Honeybee...I made that with a gage cross,to yrs befor it was for sale...did not catch any shit from them at all....hell I still got a lot of unreleased seeds from them,that are waiting for me to run...(bullrider x joe) they may not see a release, or they may be out already.
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Guess what Gen I bet you wouldn't have released fireballs, honeybee or anything else if it wasn't up to your liking.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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genuity said:
This all to much....how can anyone try and knock this dude for useing one male...when that fuck boy gromer is doing the samething?

What test has he shown?...not just pics of bud on wood.

This shit is all fuck boy shit...

People cry about prices at 200,but every auction damn near starts at 200...fukkkk u mean.
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I def ain't knocking the man for using one male hell thats what I like cus it shows me that the male is a winner. When I say test I just wanna know how the offspring are producing idc about no thc test means nothing to me

You may not think your a breeder but you are and a damn good one at that. But all we saying is have anyone grown any beans out. Any beans of yours I have I have seen pics and can get info from you cus you've grown them before the public got them. You pointed me to people who have grown them too so I will take yours over mostly anyone cus you ain't just releasing beans and don't know how the offspring produce. I'll gladly pay $200 a pack for yours
 
kaka420

kaka420

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Vato_504 said:
Not knocking or hating just pointing out the fact that he's no different then anybody else that he talks about on IG. You're a breeder not big as them but you're here in the trenches with us daily. Not just when people start complaining or talking bad. So you can tell dudes what to expect outta honeybee or fireballs or any other crosses you done made. Fuck prices because if I like something imma grab it regardless of price. I just don't like this new money grab shit everybody is trying now with these chucks and these fucking auctions. They trying to bleed every single dollar outta us. But once we start asking questions they get defensive and think it's hate. But if I spend 200$ plus I should be able to ask what to expect out this what to expect outta that feel me. I respect all breeders from the top ones to the small timers, but it seems like nobody keeping it thorough anymore. Everybody wanna see what they can get and fuck the small timers.
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Yuuuuuuup. Hell when Soul originally released his cindy and apollo way back, he was really open about the breeding project.
 
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higher self

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Lol I too would love to see some pheno descriptions but if breeder/chucked haven't grown them I guess there won't be any at the moment. I kinda knew what to expect from faceoff male after growing 2 Archive strains but I have my doubts about this Dosi male. Like what does it even bring to the table? The F2's would be the only thing I'd be interested in all the other crosses I'd just rather get the faceoff version.

But as a customer this isn't hating at all most folks do research on the things they purchase but it's kinda sketchy as a seed buyer b/c with no descriptions you just have to go by & make assumptions based on the parent plants or have good faith in the breeder/chucker.

And how does greenline talk shit bout everyone & their momma but still get their drops lol
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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The prices are high. I think this is something that warrants a legitimate complaint. Will it change anything? Probably not just move on if that's a deal breaker. The guys gear is top notch though and you know the cuts used are as verified as you can get in the industry. I don't think the the sniping about how things are bred is really warranted and will just drag the thread down.
 
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ThaDocta1

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LMAO. I'll post some pictures when I get them off the camera. It's sad some of y'all base all your knowledge offa what is posted on the internet and if someone isn't glued to their cell phone all day making post for you then you think the work isn't being done. When in fact, those of us running stores, nurseries, etc don't have time to sit on IG faking the funk. And those just chucking in a tent, have exactly that. All the time in the world to post fake pictures of shit from their gardens. Y'all see where gromer uses the same pictures over and over with different strain names. LMAO.. y'all gullible as fuck.

To properly make even a single generation, can take years. You can't get to f3, f4, etc that fast, unless you just chucking pollen and moving on. I have tested the MULTIPLE males against about 50% of the mothers released. If they are good making babies with those, I feel confident making seeds with the rest of the collection. I got better shit to do than post on here or daily log my activities on IG. I suggest some of y'all spend more time in your garden and less on your cell phone.

I'll post some pictures here when I get them off the DSLR. Until them, this thread is a waste of time. Buncha know it all newbies that don't even have the logic to understand tent breeders vs real work.
 
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ThaDocta1

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Picking males based on vegging traits may be the dumbest thing ever. I will never do that. I reverse males and test progeny. I don't have time to make a "breeding and selection" thread or part of my site where I daily update on shit. I run several businesses, not just chuck pollen in a tent. I only know of a couple breeders that do as much work on my lines as I do. Took me 4 years to release a line I MADE. But y'all championing people that already released seeds from lines made in a fraction of the time it took me, and you don't think they're the ones ripping you off. LMAO

If what y'all want is tent breeding and fems with no selection pools for cheap, like I said, I got you. that's easy as fuck, and will save me a ton of money not going through selection pools and testing males. y'all want $60-100 packs, I can do that all day if I have no intentions or selection and just copy what they ripoff f2 companies do. Easy, thanks for putting more $$ in my pocket with a fraction of the work, sounds good to me. And here I was thinking people actually appreciated someone doing WORK and creating new elites.
 
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Vato_504

Vato_504

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ThaDocta1 said:
LMAO. I'll post some pictures when I get them off the camera. It's sad some of y'all base all your knowledge offa what is posted on the internet and if someone isn't glued to their cell phone all day making post for you then you think the work isn't being done. When in fact, those of us running stores, nurseries, etc don't have time to sit on IG faking the funk. And those just chucking in a tent, have exactly that. All the time in the world to post fake pictures of shit from their gardens. Y'all see where gromer uses the same pictures over and over with different strain names. LMAO.. y'all gullible as fuck.

To properly make even a single generation, can take years. You can't get to f3, f4, etc that fast, unless you just chucking pollen and moving on. I have tested the MULTIPLE males against about 50% of the mothers released. If they are good making babies with those, I feel confident making seeds with the rest of the collection. I got better shit to do than post on here or daily log my activities on IG. I suggest some of y'all spend more time in your garden and less on your cell phone.

I'll post some pictures here when I get them off the DSLR. Until them, this thread is a waste of time. Buncha know it all newbies that don't even have the logic to understand tent breeders vs real work.
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Sound like you need to take your own advice all the bitching and crying you been doing on IG. You can't get mad when people ask what they're spending their hard earned dollars on. I call bullshit on the play becuase you haven't posted a pic on IG of any of those new strains. You barely post pics from your last drop. I see why you and greenline get along y'all have the same attitude towards customers.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Like I said in my post earlier your one of the few breeders I have always heard talking about testing males and progeny so when you say you have tested them I have no reason not to believe it. I think anyone who was questioning just wanted to know that cus like you said there are people out here who are just chucking pollen and releasing beans before the offspring are grown out. I know to truly breed it takes time so I get all that but people just want some info about said product. Anything on Apple site about their products you can find info on cus people want to know about the product before they shell out their hard earned money so it's the same with your beans. Don't take things so personal too and stop worrying about gromer. Let him do what he does if he uses same pics over and over let him do that breeding in tent let him do that. Continue to do things the right way and show people how it should be done
 
GreenLegend420

GreenLegend420

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ThaDocta1 said:
You're right, I havn't tested shit, and these pictures were created out of clay and colored pencils. Instagram is like a playground for idiots.
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Im not not trying to tell you how to market your business in any way or anything like that but if you drop pics of each strain a few weeks before a drop it would absolutely get people across the world probably talking about the drop.

IMO by not releasing a nice photo lineup of the drop it can only cause people to speculate and cost you money on the bottom line beacuse people want to know what they are buying before they buy.
 
killAgreenguy

killAgreenguy

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I just think dudes need to do what they do people is gonna talk wether good or bad but at least they talkin all of y'all taking marketing suggestions so personal is bogus let your work speak for it self and so what if people base their decisions of ig or these forums not everyone is a cool guy and has connections we all gotta start somewhere if archive gear is whack dudes will buy then stop cuz it sux same for thugpug same for inhouse and so on and so on everyone do what they do and maybe listen to your customers a bit more if u @ThaDocta1 Are so successful then hire a photographer they are not that expensive and give the people what they want have someone that works for you run the company ig and online presence I believe in your product as I have spent a couple thousand + but I'd still love more pics and insight I'm gonna pay u for those dosi crosses regardless but would I be happier if ig was poppin wit pic and talk even if it was hype YES I'm sure all of us would plz don't change for haters but a lil give won't hurt and plz don't be like greenline wit all this internet drama much respect peace
 
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