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Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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You realize the people you are name calling are the people buying your products right?

When you price packs at $200 you should expect a little more scrutiny. No beans are worth 200 but they should at least be tested. Good to know they were.

I think you are respected much more than chuckers like thug pug and the work put in is def appreciated. Should maybe be a little nicer to your customers and not price hard working everyday people out of your genetics though...
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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Also id say breeders are held under more scrutiny now because of chuckers like thug pug and in house. These guys unload a shit ton of gear and wonder why people bitch when half of it herms out hard. So I guess people are a bit more wary these days. Constructive critism isn't a bad thing. Listening to it i how you stay afloat.

I respect the fact that you care enough to even come on here. Any complaints to a guy like gromer and you receive an asshole response and/or a block.
 
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ThaDocta1

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Thefarmer12 said:
You realize the people you are name calling are the people buying your products right?

When you price packs at $200 you should expect a little more scrutiny. No beans are worth 200 but they should at least be tested. Good to know they were.

I think you are respected much more than chuckers like thug pug and the work put in is def appreciated. Should maybe be a little nicer to your customers and not price hard working everyday people out of your genetics though...
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It's called investment, and I have to recoup it somehow. Time, facilities, power bills, opportunity cost is extensive for proper work. If you don't understand that, I don't really care if you buy my seeds. If you think unworked shit made in a a fucking tent for $100 is a deal but the original breeder that spent 6 figures to do the work doesn't deserve $200, then its unlikely we have similar views on quality and effort.
 
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806KING

806KING

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ThaDocta1 said:
It's called investment, and I have to recoup it somehow. Time, facilities, power bills, opportunity cost is extensive for proper work. If you don't understand that, I don't really care if you buy my seeds. If you think unworked shit for $100 is a deal but the original breeder that spent 6 figures to do the work doesn't deserve $200, then its unlikely we have similar views on quality and effort.
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I respect that your here on this forum! When I flip a house I'm gonna get my asking price plain and simple and if they don't wanna pay don't really care keep moving
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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ThaDocta1 said:
It's called investment, and I have to recoup it somehow. Time, facilities, power bills, opportunity cost is extensive for proper work. If you don't understand that, I don't really care if you buy my seeds. If you think unworked shit for $100 is a deal but the original breeder that spent 6 figures to do the work doesn't deserve $200, then its unlikely we have similar views on quality and effort.
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I understand to an extent. Although guys like Bodhi seem to do ok at 70 a pack. I realize there's a market for it and that's why its done but I figure id put my 2 cents in for the little guy who can't afford a pack that is an 1/6 of my packcheck.

And no i don't think 100 for unworked shit is a deal which is why id like to have the money to buy Archive. :)
 
GreenLegend420

GreenLegend420

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806KING said:
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I respect that your here on this forum! When I flip a house I'm gonna get my asking price plain and simple and if they don't wanna pay don't really care keep moving
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Ok but to prove some of our points how many houses you sell with zero pictures???
 
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ThaDocta1

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Bodhi makes more seeds in 1 year than I've made in my entire career. Come to your own conclusions as to who is doing testing and selections. LIke I said, if what the market wants is untested, unworked, no selection gear of only the hype shit for half the price, I can do that too..easy..in fact, that will save me a grip in time, money, and investment and increase my profitibility at least 2 fold. Is it better for the "consumer", maybe, but it's a disservice to our genepool.
 
GreenLegend420

GreenLegend420

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ThaDocta1 said:
Bodhi makes more seeds in 1 year than I've made in my entire career. Come to your own conclusions as to who is doing testing and selections. LIke I said, if what the market wants is untested, unworked, no selection gear for half the price, I can do that too.. in fact, that will save me a grip and increase my profitibility at least 2 fold.
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I think your wrong there to talk down on bohdi! I havnt ran any but its tested pretty heavily by regular growers with un biased reviews.
 
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kona gold

kona gold

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Picking males based on vegging traits may be the dumbest thing ever. I will never do that. I reverse males and test progeny. I don't have time to make a "breeding and selection" thread or part of my site where I daily update on shit. I run several businesses, not just chuck pollen in a tent. I only know of a couple breeders that do as much work on my lines as I do. Took me 4 years to release a line I MADE. But y'all championing people that already released seeds from lines made in a fraction of the time it took me, and you don't think they're the ones ripping you off. LMAO

If what y'all want is tent breeding and fems with no selection pools for cheap, like I said, I got you. that's easy as fuck, and will save me a ton of money not going through selection pools and testing males. y'all want $60-100 packs, I can do that all day if I have no intentions or selection and just copy what they ripoff f2 companies do. Easy, thanks for putting more $$ in my pocket with a fraction of the work, sounds good to me. And here I was thinking people actually appreciated someone doing WORK and creating new elites.
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Fuck it.
I wouldn't give away all my secrets because everyone wants to know everything on line.
Got to have some secrets in the secret sauce, or everyone will be able to make the same sauce, without having to put in the time, trial or error.
Arrogance of the internet.
 
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ThaDocta1

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GreenLegend420 said:
I think your wrong there to talk down on bohdi! I havnt ran any but its tested pretty heavily by regular growers with un biased reviews.

Can you say the same??
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Having other people grow your shit ain't testing. That's just 3rd party reviews that don't have any bearing on a breeding project beyond a couple pretty pictures. I ain't talking down, he'll tell you himself he doesn't run through most of the gear. He is busy making f1's with rare landrace not growing the progeny and making a line. I'm not devaluing it, just pointing out the in house expense of testing and line breeding isn't equivalent.
 
GreenLegend420

GreenLegend420

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You don't have a point. I just havn't had time to post them because I hate the fuckin internet nowadays and been busy running everything else to play on the web.
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Well im done in this thread. And i do have a point. Im on IG and you be on there posting pics of stuff people grew of yours. No reason why you couldnt have used that time to post the new stuff.
 
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