Club 315w lec

Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Growdict said:
i have both, some cree3590s and a ss philips 315. both are great lights. I would recommend either. i dont see a difference in thc levels, but havent had a test done.
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I got some cree cxa2590's , cree XTE white, cree xte red, i would recommend the CMH over any LED. Much fuller spectrum. LED's are over hyped and over priced, i really don't see any advantage of using LEDs over HID lights anymore. Honestly to replace a good 1kw hps you need nearly 1kw of LEDs, whats the point in that when they cost 10x more, and all watts produce the same amount of heat so 1,000 watts in = 3400 btu about. Not to mention they produce ZERO UV, ZERO IR, and nearly zero far red. They aren't even good at growing lettuce , my lettuce prefers the sun or my HID lights.
 
Gaz29

Gaz29

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Hi all just bought myself an omega 315w ballast Phillips bulb connecter etc and I'm replacing a 600w hps.. i really like the cri/par etc of this bulb & tech.! Looking forward to seeing what these lights can do... happy growing
Gaz
 
GroErr

GroErr

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ttystikk said:
I've run CDM/CMH type lights for years and they do make the frost. I had heat problems, which COB LED solved. I'm growing the best quality ever with them.
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Quality is somewhat subjective but I have a pretty good nose and taste buds and my buds have never smelled or tasted better under COBs. I also had several comments from people I share with after I switched, many asking what the "new strains" were (same strains/phenos grown under different lighting). Quality and terps were great under the 315's but definitely a step up from that with 3590's ime.

Not a tech snob and will likely use my 315's again if the situation calls for them. But I'd definitely stop short of saying quality is better under 315's and I used them for 2+ years. I've yet to see anyone say "I should have stuck with hps or CMH" after switching over to COBs.

BTW: I define quality in the context of smell, visual and taste. Not how high the THC is, THC is one of 70+ cannabinoids and only one factor in how high you get.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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GroErr said:
Quality is somewhat subjective but I have a pretty good nose and taste buds and my buds have never smelled or tasted better under COBs. I also had several comments from people I share with after I switched, many asking what the "new strains" were (same strains/phenos grown under different lighting). Quality and terps were great under the 315's but definitely a step up from that with 3590's ime.

Not a tech snob and will likely use my 315's again if the situation calls for them. But I'd definitely stop short of saying quality is better under 315's and I used them for 2+ years. I've yet to see anyone say "I should have stuck with hps or CMH" after switching over to COBs.

BTW: I define quality in the context of smell, visual and taste. Not how high the THC is, THC is one of 70+ cannabinoids and only one factor in how high you get.
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That's your opinion.What i have seen from actual lab test data is that CMH lights produce the highest THC levels, than DE HPS , then the rest(leds usually the lowest THC because they have no UV and UV is essential to THC and cannabinoid production). It's the reason a lot of the dispensaries are buying DE and CMH lights. They are not buying COBs on a mass scale so that should tell you something as well.
 
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Madmungo

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Yodaweed said:
That's your opinion.What i have seen from actual lab test data is that CMH lights produce the highest THC levels, than DE HPS , then the rest(leds usually the lowest THC because they have no UV and UV is essential to THC and cannabinoid production). It's the reason a lot of the dispensaries are buying DE and CMH lights. They are not buying COBs on a mass scale so that should tell you something as well.
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Mate, the outer jacket on a 315 open fixture lamp lamp blocks virtually all the uv from a cmh, unless you're running an single jacket in an open fixture (dangerous!)
Then you're not getting uv, also you can't get a sun tan through a window either, same principal.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Madmungo

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ThaMagnificent said:
So go with 4? open hood? I read a glass running it closed and cooled is bad because the glass blocks the uvb from the light.

I actually had a few Amare LEDs laying around and a Johnson CX9. Was thinking of running 2 - 315s with an LED in the middle...
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I'd put the LED by the extract/air con so they can keep cool and more efficient and put the cmh together at the hot end.
 
ThaMagnificent

ThaMagnificent

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ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
Quality is somewhat subjective but I have a pretty good nose and taste buds and my buds have never smelled or tasted better under COBs. I also had several comments from people I share with after I switched, many asking what the "new strains" were (same strains/phenos grown under different lighting). Quality and terps were great under the 315's but definitely a step up from that with 3590's ime.

Not a tech snob and will likely use my 315's again if the situation calls for them. But I'd definitely stop short of saying quality is better under 315's and I used them for 2+ years. I've yet to see anyone say "I should have stuck with hps or CMH" after switching over to COBs.

BTW: I define quality in the context of smell, visual and taste. Not how high the THC is, THC is one of 70+ cannabinoids and only one factor in how high you get.
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This has been my experience as well.
 
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Madmungo

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Yodaweed said:
you do not know what quality is, i have seen your plants that are burnt to a crisp under those LEDs. Please refrain from talking you are a total idiot . Didn't you get shut down growing in a legal state? I mean how fucking stupid can you be.
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Calm down lads, we've all had a drink, no scrapping eh....?
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Madmungo said:
Mate, the outer jacket on a 315 open fixture lamp lamp blocks virtually all the uv from a cmh, unless you're running an single jacket in an open fixture (dangerous!)
Then you're not getting uv, also you can't get a sun tan through a window either, same principal.
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completely wrong. the mogul base 315 philips bulb puts out the most uv compared to the 2 pin models but they still put out uv.

if it's an open rated bulb then it's designed to be run open. the outer envelope is designed to contain a bulb failure.
 
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