IGNORANT MASSES SHOCKED BY PHILLY BEVERAGE TAX IMPACT
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don't buy it..........
lead paint is made and used in the usa still......military
Chunky Stool
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You are wrong.
A healthy diet is FAR superior, but vitamins definitely help. Humans develop deficiencies, just like plants. You can even take fiber supplements, which are very good for you. (High fiber diets lower the risk of many types of cancer.)
If you ate MickeyDs plus vitamins & fiber supplements, you would be MUCH better off. (They also sell salads
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Rrog
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I think you're both right. A diet of McD and soda definitely isn't gonna cut it. The problem is, supplements are often in a non-bio-available form. Since there's no oversight and no efficacy studies, no one cares.
If I were presented with an undernourished person, I would start with whole eggs. Best bang for your nutritional buck.
If I were presented with an undernourished person, I would start with whole eggs. Best bang for your nutritional buck.
i'm just saying who buys n uses most of it, not all of it...............
Tangerine_
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So the gist of this is (I'm really tired so not going to go into what I've experienced working as a healthcare professional) "some" people are pissed because education is obviously lacking and people are whining about an extra soda tax? Obesity is now an epidemic so this could potentially address both issues?
Anyone with half a brain cell understands the rising cost of healthcare in the US is directly due to chronic preventable conditions and disease, so I'd like to see some of these naysayers at least have a solid effective plan to curb these healthcare costs rather than the pointless whining. As well as a plan to address the lack of funding for education. Because IMO, this is something that should go nationwide.
Cut out the soda and at the very least, maybe folks will start to put some real value into protecting our water source.
Anyone with half a brain cell understands the rising cost of healthcare in the US is directly due to chronic preventable conditions and disease, so I'd like to see some of these naysayers at least have a solid effective plan to curb these healthcare costs rather than the pointless whining. As well as a plan to address the lack of funding for education. Because IMO, this is something that should go nationwide.
Cut out the soda and at the very least, maybe folks will start to put some real value into protecting our water source.
Bigot? How so?
It's unconstitutional. This penalizes soda drinkers. You would have to tax everything that high fructose corn syrup is in and that's basically everything in the aisles..you're free to choose fruit vegetables dairy etc..the outside perimeter of grocery store.
There's none in Coke Zero..is it still taxable? Of course it is!
This will be challenged.
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It's all about WHO they are doing it to.
The wealthy receive tax subsidies; the poor pay through consumption tax.
Like I said, the soda companies will be all over this because it singles them out unfairly.
Companies aren't responsible for over-consumption..the person who consumes is..like @FattyPie.
NLXSK1
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Rednecks drink cases of mt dew.... That is a bigoted statement. Duh...
Seat belts are 'safety'..so slightly different.
I didn't know that..why? Is it laced with meth? I thought it was just a southern state favorite.
Like LaBatts beer is Canadian favorite or Red Stripe is Jamaican favorite.
I guess you're the bigot if you know this.
Do you drink Mountain Dew?
UncleBuck
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NLXSK1
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I cant remember the last time I had a mountain dew. What do you do for a living? Since we are asking personal details about people again...
Chunky Stool
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It's easy to say that anyone with half a brain cell would understand that soda (both diet & regular) are bad for your health.
But I drank that shit when I was young. It tasted good and quenched my thirst. Probably even gave me a sugar/caffeine boost.
Now I won't touch it. My last employer had coolers full of that shit; all you can drink -- FREE!
No thanks. Young folks can drink liquid death. I'll stick with water, coffee, green tea, V8, and fruit juice. (Not necessarily in that order
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Tangerine_
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Explain how its unconstitutional? Soda offers no nutritional value. The tax is based on ounces I believe, which is why its impractical to tax everything high in fructose (solids) in the aisles. Like desperate overweight "Johns" seeking a trick, ppl tend to buy whats cheap, quick and easy. Perhaps if it wasn't quite so cheap a little more planning would go into the their food budget.
But again, I've been up for around 30hr so I probably shouldn't even enter this debate but I'm bored and still cant sleep.
Anyway, I spent the better part of my career working triage, ICU, and EMS. Towards the end of my career we were in the process of ordering a bariatric stretcher due to rising number of morbidly obese pts as well as the numerous injuries we'd incurred while attempting to treat and transport these pts. For EMS across he country, this had become the new norm.
Should we just refuse treatment because of their poor lifestyle choices? Because IMO, that's what would be unconstitutional. As much as I hate nanny laws this seems like a nudge in the right direction...then again, its no secret the GOP likes em obese and undereducated
But seriously, I'd like to hear some real solutions that could be put in place to curb the rising cost of healthcare directly related to these poor lifestyle choices. Many areas have nutritional education available for low income families but it usually falls on deaf ears. If the healthcare and education is that poor what should be done to at least curb it. Oh and Coke zero maybe better for "choice" for the diabetic, but that hardly means its better overall...because it isn't.
And I know I'll get roasted for my opinion on this, but when I look at that receipt all I see are the countless bills I've seen for upwards of 500k to treat a single pts for an MI because he's high risk due to???? You got it...diabetes.
NLXSK1
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Well, before the government decided to burden everyone with socialized medicine if you did not take care of your health then the burden of the cost was on you.
Now it seems you can do fuckall with your health including getting diabetese with no concern that you will personally have to pay for it...
How is that reinforcing lifestyle choices again? Oh wait...
UncleBuck
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considering that she posted 5 minutes ago, and it took you at least two minutes to mash the keyboard for a response, that would give you three minutes to read and comprehend her post.
given your illiteracy, i'm calling bullshit.