Merkel backs full-face veil ban

Justin-case

Justin-case

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These notions of all out bans on burkas are rediculous. Where would we draw the line?
Amish and Mennonite wemon wear bonnets, nuns wear veils and i assume many still remain celibate. Are these practices also considered oppressive? Where would the line be between over dressing and being considered a danger or oppressed, or under dressing and being considered a slut or a ho. Haven't women been abused on both sides of the aisle on this one?

Sure, I would agree in some cases, like a court of law full face coverings may impede in legal proceedings. But would also bet that in time these traditions will become less an less common. When it comes down to it I don't think anybody has the right to tell others to wear.
 
HAF2

HAF2

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Justin-case said:
These notions of all out bans on burkas are rediculous. Where would we draw the line?
Amish and Mennonite wemon wear bonnets, nuns wear veils and i assume many still remain celibate. Are these practices also considered oppressive? Where would the line be between over dressing and being considered a danger or oppressed, or under dressing and being considered a slut or a ho. Haven't women been abused on both sides of the aisle on this one?

Sure, I would agree in some cases, like a court of law full face coverings may impede in legal proceedings. But would also bet that in time these traditions will become less an less common. When it comes down to it I don't think anybody has the right to tell others to wear.
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I'm in agreement that a ban is not the best idea. But besides waiting for the natural progression of time and human rights evolution; how do we save people now from being oppressed into wearing these veils?
On the other side of the coin; who are we to just infer that because some women are forced into this that all of them are? I feel it's oppression but maybe some love the mystery the veil holds or the money they save on make-up? Who knows, that's why I'm asking.
 
HAF2

HAF2

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Justin-case said:
What, your old lady has never made you wear anything ?
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You mean my mom? I don’t have an old lady. And the last guy that tried to get me to wear something I didn’t want is minus two testicles. Not really, no one has ever been dumb enough to ask.
 
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ThickStemz

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HAF2 said:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel reiterates her position on burqas, telling her conservative CDU that "a full veil is inappropriate in our country" and "should be banned." (Reuters)

BERLIN — German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who last year opened the door to nearly 1 million mostly Muslim migrants, staked out a tough new stance on conservative Islam on Tuesday by making her first direct call for a widespread ban on “full veil” religious coverings.

Her backing could add Germany to the growing list of European nations imposing restrictions on Islamic coverings as debates sharpen across the continent over religious tolerance, perceived threats to European identity and possible attacks by Islamists.

It also could signal a pragmatic shift to the right for Merkel, who is seeking a fourth term as Germany’s leader. In the wake of Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and the U.S. election of Donald Trump, the tolerant Merkel became seen as among the last guardians of liberal democracy in the West.

But her handling of the migrant crisis — which hit her approval ratings and caused internal party dissent — is now seen as a critical weakness ahead of next year’s elections.

Her comments also came as German social media buzzed following the arrests of two asylum seekers in five days in connection with three sexual assaults, including the brutal rape and murder of a 19-year old medical student in the picturesque southern city of Freiburg. Right-wing politicians are openly blaming Merkel’s policy for what they decry as a migrant-fueled crime wave.

Yet Merkel on Tuesday issued a reminder that she still can play the conservative card.

Speaking to a cheering conference of her center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU), she used her strongest language yet to back a ban on certain Islamic coverings first proposed by conservatives in her party. Some are calling for a law making it a regulatory offense for women to cover their faces in courtrooms, administrative buildings and schools, as well as while driving or attending demonstrations.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/europe/germanys-merkel-backs-sweeping-limits-on-full-face-islamic-coverings/2016/12/06/d5aaf012-bbb0-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?client=safari

Thoughts?
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About Fucking time.

Europeans are in danger of becoming extinct. They need to get tough and start kicking ass. Make them wear a green crescent. I'm literally all for a final solution to the Muslim question.
 
MisterBouncyBounce

MisterBouncyBounce

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I think in most states it's illegal to walk around wearing a mask. is a Burka any different? Partial ok, but full? then where do we draw the line then?
people can walk around disguised just by calling a mask a burka?

you don't have to pass a law banning Burkas, just pass a law banning Masks. and not that you can't wear a mask or a Burka, but just that you can go walking around like that regular. like it is in most states, if not all.

it's a secular society, freedom of religion means you can do whatever you want in private. not in public. the public is a religion free zone.
separation of church and state and all that stuff.
 
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ThickStemz

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Big_Lou said:
Reported for HIDEOUS levels of racism.

Please do the world a solid and kill yourself.
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Report away.

Meanwhile gangs of Muslims immigrants go around raping European women.

But I'm racist.

I didn't even mention a race. I mentioned a religion. You fucking hyper sensitive panty waste
 
HAF2

HAF2

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MisterBouncyBounce said:
I think in most states it's illegal to walk around wearing a mask. is a Burka any different? Partial ok, but full? then where do we draw the line then?
people can walk around disguised just by calling a mask a burka?

you don't have to pass a law banning Burkas, just pass a law banning Masks. and not that you can't wear a mask or a Burka, but just that you can go walking around like that regular. like it is in most states, if not all.

it's a secular society, freedom of religion means you can do whatever you want in private. not in public. the public is a religion free zone.
separation of church and state and all that stuff.
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This is the original article. Germany is on the way to ban veils, all face coverings I believe.

Big_Lou said:
Reported for HIDEOUS levels of racism.

Please do the world a solid and kill yourself.
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We really need to help the mentally ill not shame them. No one in their right mind would ever use the words “a solution to the Muslim question”. Paranoid schizophrenic, Borderline personality, malignant narcissist? Not enough information to tell yet.
 
JaJaJaJa

JaJaJaJa

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He kinda has a point. Just look at sexual assault levels in Europe prior to, and after the mass muslim immigration. These people have no respect for women, and their religion itself encourages the total oppression of women. One cannot have a progressive society where the rights of women are respected, and also let Islam become the dominate faith. Islam is incompatible with gender equality.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/739620/Maria-Ladenburger-murder-EU-official-daughter-killed-by-refugee-Aghan
Maria Ladenburger, the daughter of a high-ranking EU official, was returning from a party in the university city of Freiburg in Germany when she was assaulted on a cycle path.

She was raped and then drowned before her body was found in the River Dreisam.

The shocking incident happened on October 16 but details have only been released after an arrest on Friday.

The suspect, an Afghan migrant, was caught after police found DNA on a scarf near the path.

The scarf reportedly belonged to Maria.

They also found a strand of hair on a nearby blackberry bush.

Officers then trawled CCTV to see find people with a similar hairstyle, which led them to the suspect.

Following his arrest the suspect, aged 17, pleaded guilty to the attack and will be sentenced next year.

The unnamed migrant arrived in Germany last year as an unaccompanied minor and lived with a local family in the city.
 
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