How Israel takes care of its friends, the Palestinians

ttystikk

ttystikk

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/deported-palestine-israel-fears-journalists-161123071118126.html

A glimpse into how Israel treats anyone who wants to see the truth of the Palestinian 'conflict'. Let's just call it what it is.

Barbaric.

Despicable.

And most damming; crimes against humanity, which must force the United States on human rights grounds to withdraw its financial and military support until reparations are made.

Failure to do so is nothing short of aiding and abetting these war crimes against the Palestinian people ourselves.

After all, they're using American supplied Apache Gunships and F-16 Falcons.

I have no quarrel with anyone of the Jewish faith, but I have a serious problem with the activities Israel is carrying out while hiding behind Judaism. I'm well aware I'm in good company with many, perhaps even most Jews who feel the same.

It's time to take a stand. America is Israel's biggest benefactor, by which we share the blood of Palestinians on our hands. Our support must stop.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/deported-palestine-israel-fears-journalists-161123071118126.html

A glimpse into how Israel treats anyone who wants to see the truth of the Palestinian 'conflict'. Let's just call it what it is.

Barbaric.

Despicable.

And most damming; crimes against humanity, which must force the United States on human rights grounds to withdraw its financial and military support until reparations are made.

Failure to do so is nothing short of aiding and abetting these war crimes against the Palestinian people ourselves.

After all, they're using American supplied Apache Gunships and F-16 Falcons.

I have no quarrel with anyone of the Jewish faith, but I have a serious problem with the activities Israel is carrying out while hiding behind Judaism. I'm well aware I'm in good company with many, perhaps even most Jews who feel the same.

It's time to take a stand. America is Israel's biggest benefactor, by which we share the blood of Palestinians on our hands. Our support must stop.
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Thank you for bringing this up and being against it. The construction of your post illustrates how language is corrupted by government and how people by force of habit go along with it.

When you say "we" share the blood etc. that is very telling. If you personally disavow it and don't support it, how is it that you consider yourself complicit ? Why do you say "we", are you personally part of it ?

I'll tell you how, (since you probably won't answer me anyway).

You (along with most people) let other people assign your status by learned obedience. When you obediently acquiesce to government word smithing and use the remanufactured terms they assign you, they smile.

If you don't support it, stop obeying and stop using their remanufactured words. You are not part of that if you disavow it and don't support the blood shed.

It is "they" that do it, not you. If you think you are part of a "we" and you can't escape being assigned that status, you will never be free.

'THEY" do it, not you. Hence it isn't "we" it is "them". Words have meaning.


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twostrokenut

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Rob Roy said:
Thank you for bringing this up and being against it. The construction of your post illustrates how language is corrupted by government and people by force of habit go along with it.

When you say "we" share the blood etc. that is very telling. If you personally disavow it and don't support it, how is it that you consider yourself complicit ? Why do you say "we", are you personally part of it ?

I'll tell you how, (since you probably won't answer me anyway).

You (along with most people) let other people assign your status by learned obedience. When you obediently acquiesce to government word smithing and use the remanufactured terms they assign you, they smile.

If you don't support it, stop obeying and stop using their remanufactured words. You are not part of that if you disavow it and don't support the blood shed.

It is "they" that do it, not you. If you think you are part of a "we" and you can't escape being assigned that status, you will never be free.

'THEY" do it, not you. Hence it isn't "we" it is "them". Words have meaning.


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Perhaps he is coming around though, recognizing support for what it is; monetary payment. I think he realizes we support this through tax dollars and is suggesting a tax protest on moral grounds.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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twostrokenut said:
Perhaps he is coming around though, recognizing support for what it is; monetary payment. I think he realizes we support this through tax dollars and is suggesting a tax protest on moral grounds.
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There's a chance he will. If he is ready to disavow foreign aggression, maybe he'll figure out that domestic aggression isn't so good either.
 
MisterBouncyBounce

MisterBouncyBounce

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Rob Roy said:
Thank you for bringing this up and being against it. The construction of your post illustrates how language is corrupted by government and how people by force of habit go along with it.

When you say "we" share the blood etc. that is very telling. If you personally disavow it and don't support it, how is it that you consider yourself complicit ? Why do you say "we", are you personally part of it ?

I'll tell you how, (since you probably won't answer me anyway).

You (along with most people) let other people assign your status by learned obedience. When you obediently acquiesce to government word smithing and use the remanufactured terms they assign you, they smile.

If you don't support it, stop obeying and stop using their remanufactured words. You are not part of that if you disavow it and don't support the blood shed.

It is "they" that do it, not you. If you think you are part of a "we" and you can't escape being assigned that status, you will never be free.

'THEY" do it, not you. Hence it isn't "we" it is "them". Words have meaning.


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rob i agree that use, misuse and manipulation of language is important in creating, stopping and manipulating thoughts.

however in this case it seemed to me at least that his use of "we" as in we have blood on our hands, means America. not the individuals who are against our (note the use of the word "our") middle east policies.

since it's his homeland, he can't say "they" and mean America. when you refer to the American government you're referring to "your" government, not someone else', right?

further i also think he is trying to say we as Americans have to take responsibility for what our government is doing, because we as Americans are letting it happen and we can also change it. by not doing so it is on us.

"there comes a time when silence is betrayal"-MLK

you can disavow all you want, but it's your tax dollars that is paying for it and it's your voice that is either being heard or ignored, and so it is on you and me and him to do something about the shit we don't like. if we don't then we have blood on our hands.

and that's true for all the fucked up shit that is going on in this country.

this government belongs to us, not the politicians we elect. we have the power, if we don't use it then how can "they" be to blame? if "we" don't change things, then who is supposed to?

what are we saying, that "they", someone else, is supposed to while we sit on our butts in our disavowed righteousness? if that's so, then the country is not ours, it's theirs. you can't be American and just pick and choose what you are responsible for and what you're not. this is your country dude, not someone else'.

I can't stand Trump, but "we" elected him. for anyone who calls America home, there is no "they", there is only "we".
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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ttystikk said:
Don't like the story, blame the news outlet!

Their journalistic standards are a lot higher than Faux Spews, not that you'd know the difference.

And for the record, what's wrong with the Muslim Brotherhood that can't also be said about B'nai B'rith?
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Does B'nai B'rith contribute financially to terrorism?
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
when trump does business with qatar, does he just pocket the money himself, or does he spend it so that he may dispense life saving AIDS medication to 11 million people worldwide?
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Hotel business is all over the world. When he starts accepting millions in donations to the trump foundation from them, you let me know.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
Would you be ok with us producing oil here instead of buying it from Qatar? That is what trump is proposing.
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you're not answering the question, pietard.

i can cite at least a dozen posts from you where you stated unequivocally that clinton was wrong for taking donations from these countries, which her foundation then used to supply millions of people with life saving drugs. she gave them nothing in return, either.

meanwhile, trump is doing business with these nations (which you said are responsible for funding ISIS), giving them plenty in return, and you have not made a single objection.

one might say you are a bit of a hypocritical piece of shit for doing that, eh?
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
you're not answering the question, pietard.

i can cite at least a dozen posts from you where you stated unequivocally that clinton was wrong for taking donations from these countries, which her foundation then used to supply millions of people with life saving drugs. she gave them nothing in return, either.

meanwhile, trump is doing business with these nations (which you said are responsible for funding ISIS), giving them plenty in return, and you have not made a single objection.

one might say you are a bit of a hypocritical piece of shit for doing that, eh?
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One good deed does not a saint make.

How is removing our money from their economy helping them?

What favors do you think he will grant them? Do you have evidence of them donating to the trump foundation?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
One good deed does not a saint make.

How is removing our money from their economy helping them?
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trump has businesses set up in those countries, his businesses in their countries help their economies. he also profits off of these businesses in the nations which you say are responsible for funding ISIS.

does infowars not have a talking point for you to use here, retard?
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
trump has businesses set up in those countries, his businesses in their countries help their economies. he also profits off of these businesses in the nations which you say are responsible for funding ISIS.

does infowars not have a talking point for you to use here, retard?
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Quite different to operate a business that provides a service in a country, then to accept millions of government money from that country. (not to mention during periods where those countries are trying to get deals with SoS)

They are not comparable. Again, let me know if his charity starts accepting millions and millions direct from the government of Qatar.
 
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