ttystikk
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Nah. You're not worth the effort.When you start changing minds let me know, maybe I'll change mine.
See how that feels? So why do it to others?
Nah. You're not worth the effort.When you start changing minds let me know, maybe I'll change mine.
you sure enjoy making excuses for people who could vote for someone who makes racist bigoted comments.A lot of people looked at him as the lesser of two evils. They weren't proud of voting for Trump, but they held their nose and did it anyway. Clinton was so unappealing to them that they voted for a shit bag like Trump.
Run a better candidate and that wouldn't happen.
All of these socials issues deserve some focus by a candidate, but they shouldn't be the central theme when so many people are struggling financially. More importantly perhaps, these issues should be championed by someone that the people believe is in their corner. When a corporate America shill like Clinton cheer leads these issues it comes off as disingenuous lip service.Don't you think it's odd that there was a rise in hate crimes against Muslims last year? Why do you think that happened? Also, hate crimes against Hispanics took off.
At the same time that was happening, one of our presidential candidates was pandering to white racist sentiment in angry speeches that cast other US citizens and legal immigrants as terrorists and rapists. Don't you think there is a relationship?
There is a conservative religious streak in the African American religious community. This just means that narrow mindedness is an equal opportunity weakness.
And what about this discussion of a Muslim registry? Would it be too PC of me to think that this is an outrageous action to take or even discuss seriously at top levels of our government?
"We love the uneducated" - Trump 2016you sure enjoy making excuses for people who could vote for someone who makes racist bigoted comments.
Bernie babies logic to avoid not owning the shit they did
easy for you to say if the social issues don't affect you.All of these socials issues deserve some focus by a candidate, but they shouldn't be the central theme when so many people are struggling financially. More importantly perhaps, these issues should be championed by someone that the people believe is in their corner. When a corporate America shill like Clinton cheer leads these issues it comes off as disingenuous lip service.
All of these socials issues deserve some focus by a candidate, but they shouldn't be the central theme when so many people are struggling financially. More importantly perhaps, these issues should be championed by someone that the people believe is in their corner. When a corporate America shill like Clinton cheer leads these issues it comes off as disingenuous lip service.
Easy for you to say if the financial issues don't affect youeasy for you to say if the social issues don't affect you.
There was a very large increase in hate crimes last year against Muslims and Hispanics -- even against people who looked hispanic. At the same time, Trump was giving racially charged speeches against those groups. Do you think this was just a coincidence?All of these socials issues deserve some focus by a candidate, but they shouldn't be the central theme when so many people are struggling financially. More importantly perhaps, these issues should be championed by someone that the people believe is in their corner. When a corporate America shill like Clinton cheer leads these issues it comes off as disingenuous lip service.
whats up with the dumbness? Must be hard for youEasy for you to say if the financial issues don't affect you
I don't disagree with this assertion. I'm just disagreeing that the main issue or even an important one was PC culture. Just the opposite, in fact.& what, financial issues can't affect social issues?
You got your ass handed to you because the Democratic Party failed to win over working class Americans. Every other minority group voted democratic.
You're almost right.The EC only disturbs you because your candidate lost.
"Donald Trump tells it like it is!"I don't disagree with this assertion. I'm just disagreeing that the main issue or even an important one was PC culture. Just the opposite, in fact.
"Donald Trump tells it like it is!"
That is a criticism of PC culture
Why can't you admit that at least some of their concerns are valid? Do you profit from such divisions? If not, why perpetuate them?Nope, that's a pathetic excuse for a rich asshole being a total bigot. Why can't you admit these people's behavior is inexcusable.
Did you answer an earlier question? Are you avoiding it? I'm asking: Is it just a coincidence that there was a rise in hate crimes last year when Trump and the right wing echo chamber was resonating with racially charged speech against Hispanics and Muslims?"Donald Trump tells it like it is!"
That is a criticism of PC culture
I said racism and sexism are important issues that should be addressed, so, not sure where you get the idea that I believe their behavior is excusableNope, that's a pathetic excuse for a rich asshole being a total bigot. Why can't you admit these people's behavior is inexcusable.
No, that's why I said addressing it is an important issue. But when you attempt to address it in a way that alienates a large portion of the base, you are not running a successful political strategy. Sanders, for example, addressed it in a way that actually affects minorities; by talking about the economic aspect of the problem. By talking about policy and avoiding identity politics and shallow rhetoric and empty platitudes. Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters 'deplorable'. You ever hear the saying that you'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar? "Kill em with kindness"? Or that story about German POWs during WW2 being given extraordinary treatment by their allied captors that they began voluntarily giving away information?Did you answer an earlier question. Are you avoiding it? I'm asking Is it just a coincidence that there was a rise in hate crimes last year when Trump and the right wing echo chamber was resonating with racially charged speech against Hispanics and Muslims?
Why can't you admit that at least some of their concerns are valid? Do you profit from such divisions? If not, why perpetuate them?
Yeah, "We don't need em!"Like I said before, we won't have to win them back after four years of the Trump administration. Every middle class Trump supporter ,who has half a brain will be begging for economic equality.
...and it didn't work then, either.Yeah, "We don't need em!"
That sounds familiar...