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Padawanbater2

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Trump won over his voters support while making racist, sexist comments and character assassinations. If this worked for him, doesnt that make your logic seem a bit scewed?
People are tired of the overtly PC culture people like UB represent

When those people call Trump racist or sexist, they muddy the waters/poison the well, so he get's away with much more than your average republican would. A good example is when the mainstream media ran stories about being outraged about Trump's fuckin' language.. Him saying 'fuck' and 'retarded' and 'rape', etc... The mainstream media blew it up as "OH, SOO OFFENSIVE!! HOW DARE HEE!!", and middle America, I'd say most of America, rightly, said "STFU idiots! Really?!".. Howbout they talk policy? Howbout some substance? No, all you have is this identity bullshit? OK then, GTFO, and voted against her.
 

londonfog

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People are tired of the overtly PC culture people like UB represent

When those people call Trump racist or sexist, they muddy the waters/poison the well, so he get's away with much more than your average republican would. A good example is when the mainstream media ran stories about being outraged about Trump's fuckin' language.. Him saying 'fuck' and 'retarded' and 'rape', etc... The mainstream media blew it up as "OH, SOO OFFENSIVE!! HOW DARE HEE!!", and middle America, I'd say most of America, rightly, said "STFU idiots! Really?!".. Howbout they talk policy? Howbout some substance? No, all you have is this identity bullshit? OK then, GTFO, and voted against her.
This has to be one of the dumbest post ever. You are basically saying we should just except bigotry and racism, keep quiet and just let the shit happen.
WTF... How about NO!!!!!!
 
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schuylaar

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lol. now you're starting to confuse your bubble logic with fact.
you win man. electoral college is legit and you (the figurative you) had nothing to do with Hillary's loss. it was all her fault. because benghazi!

don't make me put you in 'that' pile bro. you don't want to be in 'that' pile.
The EC only disturbs you because your candidate lost.
 

schuylaar

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obama won wayne county (detroit) by a margin of 595k to 213k. clinton won it by 517k to 228k. if clinton did just slightly better in detroit, she'd have carried michigan (despite massive margins in white, rural counties).

obama won milwaukee county by a margin of 328k to 158k. clinton won it by 288k to 126k. if clinton did just slightly better in milwaukee, she'd have carried wisconsin (despite massive margins in white, rural counties).

clinton outperformed obama in both philadelphia county and allegheny (pittsburgh), and lost the state due to massive margins in white, rural counties.

the biggest predictors of support for trump were hostility towards women and being inclined to racist resentment. the scientific polling shows this.

so yes, racism was a huge factor. slightly lower turnout in a couple of key cities was the death knell.
OMG! Now you're going county level?

What sickness is this?

:lol:

Turnabout is such sweet fair play..amirite?
 

NLXSK1

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I'm tired of hate crimes. @Padawanbater2 , do you think "overtly PC culture people" are responsible for the rise in hate crimes against Muslims to the same level as experienced after 9-11?
Why cant't we talk about hate crimes and what to do about it?
I think muslims blowing shit up is responsible for the hate crimes against muslims.

Overly PC people are using language to suppress regular everyday normal people and we are sick of it.

Speech is not action, stop trying to obstruct speech. You demand we talk about hate crimes and then you scream racist at anyone who tries to talk to you. You are insane.
 

st0wandgrow

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I'm tired of hate crimes. @Padawanbater2 , do you think "overtly PC culture people" are responsible for the rise in hate crimes against Muslims to the same level as experienced after 9-11?
Why cant't we talk about hate crimes and what to do about it?
WE can talk about it, but politicians shouldn't run a campaign on it. Like it or not, people in general don't place others suffering above their own perceived suffering.

As an example, look no further than the African American community. A group that has been persecuted like they have, you would imagine that they would relate to the persecution of other minority groups, right? Wrong. They don't give a fuck. *70 percent* of African Americans voted in favor of prop 8 in California, banning gay marriage.

So, while I agree that liberals should care about minority groups and welcome them in to the fold, the idea that progressive political candidates should make these issues central to their campaign is a losing strategy.
 

londonfog

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OMG! Now you're going county level?

What sickness is this?

:lol:

Turnabout is such sweet fair play..amirite?
WTF. How dumb are you really ?
It's all about county/parish level. That is the best way to read the numbers for each state.
Sky you might need to leave at least the election part of politics alone.
I really hate saying this to a female, but we are going to need you to just sit and look pretty.
 

SneekyNinja

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People are tired of the overtly PC culture people like UB represent

When those people call Trump racist or sexist, they muddy the waters/poison the well, so he get's away with much more than your average republican would. A good example is when the mainstream media ran stories about being outraged about Trump's fuckin' language.. Him saying 'fuck' and 'retarded' and 'rape', etc... The mainstream media blew it up as "OH, SOO OFFENSIVE!! HOW DARE HEE!!", and middle America, I'd say most of America, rightly, said "STFU idiots! Really?!".. Howbout they talk policy? Howbout some substance? No, all you have is this identity bullshit? OK then, GTFO, and voted against her.
Lol, Trumps policies in detail:
•Build a great wall, a tremendous wall.
•Repeal Obamacare
•Lock up Hillary

Hillary had an entire website and detailed, specific plans for her policies and Trump wouldn't even let her talk.

You're a fucking moron if you think it was because a tiny minority of Democrats are fucking pussies.
 

Padawanbater2

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This has to be one of the dumbest post ever. You are basically saying we should just except bigotry and racism, keep quiet and just let the shit happen.
WTF... How about NO!!!!!!
How's it accepting bigotry and racism when I'm the one who want's to have an open and free discussion about it and you're the one who want's to just shut everybody up and get them fired from their job for sharing a different opinion?

People see your way and rightly feel like you're trying to force them to accept it. People see my way and are forced to defend their position with logic and reason, and if you know anything about bigotry or racism, you know neither are logical or reasonable positions to hold.

This is how you actually change people's minds. You show them where they're wrong in a non confrontational, educational way. You won't win over everyone, but it sure as hell is a much more successful tactic to promote change than the shit you and Buck do to people who hold different opinions.
 

Justin-case

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How's it accepting bigotry and racism when I'm the one who want's to have an open and free discussion about it and you're the one who want's to just shut everybody up and get them fired from their job for sharing a different opinion?

People see your way and rightly feel like you're trying to force them to accept it. People see my way and are forced to defend their position with logic and reason, and if you know anything about bigotry or racism, you know neither are logical or reasonable positions to hold.

This is how you actually change people's minds. You show them where they're wrong in a non confrontational, educational way. You won't win over everyone, but it sure as hell is a much more successful tactic to promote change than the shit you and Buck do to people who hold different opinions.

If you want sit down and talk to racist and bigots and try to change their minds, more power to you, good luck. That's not how Trump did it:-)
 
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