Raw, cold pressed liquid kelp as substitute for kelp meal

calliandra

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WTF guys...
Platt, really, you have a very bizarre angle and I think you also have a language barrier to overcome (though you never explained when the topic came up, which I took as a sign that you don't really want to communicate...). AND you also have an asshole side to you as I see.
So here's my request: could you please just sorta wind that all down a bit so it becomes bearable for mere mortals like me? It really would help keep things fun around here ;)

Anyways!
There's always the green house!
Actually, you guys talking sent me off to find a nicely comprehensive link on neem trees, growing em, and all that!
http://en.howtopedia.org/wiki/How_to_Grow_Neem_Trees

Apparently, neem doesn't mind coppicing, and hence it can be cut back to keep it to room size :D
But! We also need to consider that the fruit only grow on older branches - 2-3 years old.
So what about the leaves?
Which we'd be getting anyway as part of cutting the plant back.
Turns out you can just dry & pulverize them and then use that, perfectly fine for the pesticidal benefits. (of course I, with my "living matter" hobbyhorse, would shortcut that to blending up the fresh leaves with water and presto :P )
Not everything is clear to me, such as equivalence in terms of nutrients, which the neem meal is also good for. BUT it's a start, and has definitely made me take note of the neem tree as a nice candidate for future landscaping projects (out- and indoor haha!)

Cheers! :bigjoint:
 

NaturalFarmer

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thats simple my man
it's just compost
that's all
http://www.gardenguides.com/81115-make-humic-compost.html

you could make it a number of simple ways

Just go get a box of alfalfa meal, and layer it, moisten it, tarp it, mix it.
done to pure humic compost in 3 months or so, depending on temps and turning
I just want to do it with leaves tho. I have a lot. Would decomposed leaves and water work? Sounds like I may need to wait to get some green leaves next summer.
 
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greasemonkeymann

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I just want to do it with leaves tho. I have a lot. Would decomposed leaves and water work? Sounds like I may need to wait to get some green leaves next summer.
sure, you can do just a leaf mold thing, buuuuuuut get comfy.. it takes typically at least 18 months
I tried... and after 9 months I pulled the bags of leaves out from under my house annnnd they looked like they did the day I put them under there
so I got impatient and layered with alfalfa meal and POOF they were pure humus in like 3 months
but even green leaves I don't think have the correct nitrogen %
I could be wrong though, but grass clippings, alfalfa, steer manure, fish meal (in thin layers)
almost anything can be used to kickstart the pile
Hell, I have NO experience in this, but I believe I read somewhere on a homestead sight that they water the leaf/compost pile with diluted urine (I imagine a steaming pile of urine soaked leaves probably smells less than pleasant?)
i'm a big fan of shrimp meal or fish meal as green inputs, comfrey, alfalfa, steer manure, etc
I imagine a chicken manure would work well also, need to compost that anyways
 
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