Raw, cold pressed liquid kelp as substitute for kelp meal

greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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greasemonkeymann said:
I recently have been getting more and more nervous about heavy metal content
kelp is a filter for the ocean..
and since humans are routinely dumping shit in the waters...
http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/20070509_kelp_arsenic/

I mean I LOVE kelp... but
I don't love altzheimers
it's fuckin ridiculous so many organic nutrients are simply not "clean"
from the arsenic in feather meal, and kelp meal
to the prion scare from bovine bone meals
to the hormones in manures..
holy fuck man..
aluminum in azomite, friggin RADIOACTIVE granite dust?!
approximately 5% of granite is naturally radioactive..
that's just superb
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I know man!!! That's why I'm trying to steer away from fertilizers that aren't from my worm bin or compost pile. Especially if I can get a giant comfrey and stinging nettle field going like we were talking about.

I watched a ted talks on compost where he was saying that leaves have all the minerals and nutrients a plant needs, so I wonder if between doing homemade castings, compost, infinite access to comfrey and other beneficial plants I could grow, do I really need to add kelp and mineral fertilizer products (greensand, basalt, langbenite) to ensure I've got minerals?
 
greasemonkeymann

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Rasta Roy said:
I know man!!! That's why I'm trying to steer away from fertilizers that aren't from my worm bin or compost pile. Especially if I can get a giant comfrey and stinging nettle field going like we were talking about.

I watched a ted talks on compost where he was saying that leaves have all the minerals and nutrients a plant needs, so I wonder if between doing homemade castings, compost, infinite access to comfrey and other beneficial plants I could grow, do I really need to add kelp and mineral fertilizer products (greensand, basalt, langbenite) to ensure I've got minerals?
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oh you could easily grow without any inputs past a compost pile man
easily
I have yet to do it, but I am 99% certain it'd be fine.
I mean like we always say, look at the forests
they don't get mineral supplements
they don't get kelp or anything else
they get their own leaves once a yr, and that's it

the only thing I would do is make sure you get sulfur.
I think i'd still keep neem meal
not sure what it is with that stinky shit, but it makes a lot of hidden tastes and smell "profiles" come out
 
Rasta Roy

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greasemonkeymann said:
oh you could easily grow without any inputs past a compost pile man
easily
I have yet to do it, but I am 99% certain it'd be fine.
I mean like we always say, look at the forests
they don't get mineral supplements
they don't get kelp or anything else
they get their own leaves once a yr, and that's it

the only thing I would do is make sure you get sulfur.
I think i'd still keep neem meal
not sure what it is with that stinky shit, but it makes a lot of hidden tastes and smell "profiles" come out
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Yeah I dont think I could ever abandon my neem cake! I want to look into growing some goddamn neem trees! Not sure how well a tree from India would do in Michigan though lol.
 
greasemonkeymann

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Rasta Roy said:
Yeah I dont think I could ever abandon my neem cake! I want to look into growing some goddamn neem trees! Not sure how well a tree from India would do in Michigan though lol.
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hah, i'd imagine it to not do too well...
BUT, you would be the ONLY dude on the whole friggin continent with his own fresh neem seed meal
eww.. I wonder if the tree smells funky too..
 
Dr. Who

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Rasta Roy said:
It might be a good companion plant if it does!
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Believe it or not,,,The citronella plant (also called the mosquito plant) is a good one to have in grow rooms....

I wintered a pretty big one my wife got partial too in a grow op.....Bugs seemed to just vanish from the room......I cloned out 2 other clones for other rooms and it's been working great ever sense......Might be my mind but I now keep one in every operating room running....

I set up nice 3 gallon potted ones from the clones taken during winter to limit plant size/branching.....They have been selling very well in the spring on stands and at the farmers markets!
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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Dr. Who said:
Believe it or not,,,The citronella plant (also called the mosquito plant) is a good one to have in grow rooms....

I wintered a pretty big one my wife got partial too in a grow op.....Bugs seemed to just vanish from the room......I cloned out 2 other clones for other rooms and it's been working great ever sense......Might be my mind but I now keep one in every operating room running....

I set up nice 3 gallon potted ones from the clones taken during winter to limit plant size/branching.....They have been selling very well in the spring on stands and at the farmers markets!
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Very cool I'll have to look into growing a few myself!
 
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Wetdog

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paraordnance said:
This product is not cheap. $20 per liter or $60 per gallon. The whole idea is to avoid buying second dry kelp meal product (I don't have dry kelp meal on hand) and only use this.
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FWIW, a 50# bag of Thorvin organic kelp meal from Iceland is $71 delivered to my door.

Wet
 
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congrats wetdog, but neoliberalism isnt the answer to the green revolution mistakes

join the true real earth collective as soon as you can
 
Rasta Roy

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Wetdog said:
WTF choo talkin about Willis!?

I've been called many things, but neoliberal, or, even liberal hasn't ever been one of them.

Wet
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Neoliberalism is actually more of a construct of conservative politics. In stoner terms neoliberalism is the idea that every thing is marketable...even ideals and beliefs. As long as the money machine moving and capitalism thriving, everything is okay.

Now liberals spend the most money on products that are the result of neoliberal concepts (t shirts and bracelets that advertise your beliefs and ideals, gentrified hip neighborhoods) by equating spending money on a cause to doing something to actually further a cause...

All that aside... neoliberalism is a philosophical concept that all sides participate in and is not the same as the political definition of a liberal. Just so we are clear on definitions lol.
 
MustangStudFarm

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I just see that you are messing with people on my "like" list! You know, people that I have seen around and know that they have useful information, like Wetdog. I usually listen to people with more exp than me also?
 
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