Make Liberalism Great Again

[tangerinegreen555]

What does the qualification "in the world of politics" mean ? Has she done anything "crooked or unusual" in the real world?

I'll give you an example from history.

In 1944, the 'dirty politics' southern bosses of the Democrat party managed to dump liberal progressive VP Henry Wallace because of his views towards equal rights, behind FDR's back towards the end of his life. He was too sick to attend the convention and fight for Wallace like he did in 1940, when he threatened to pull out of the race himself if he couldn't have Wallace as his running mate.

That 1944 Democratic convention was dirty, crooked and unusual. Especially the way they did a quick voice vote to carry the motion at the convention with FDR sick in bed. And they wonder why he never liked or talked to Truman.

Whatever Hillary did, it was fucking nothing as vile as that. Not even close.

 

[londonfog]

Racism is part of the problem, but it's not the main reason Trump won

Anyone who thinks it is has the SJW stick too far up their ass to see the reality for what it actually is

GTFO
Trump spoke racist and bigoted remarks all during his campaign. Hell even Bernie spoke on it. His whole campaign slogan was ridden racism. Make America Great Again wink wink again GTFO
So if you cast a fucking vote for someone who says any of those racists bigoted things then you are ok with racism and bigotry. Sorry you can't see this.

 

[see4]

Nice threat.

Totally gonna win him over with that.

My intention was never to win him over. However your fatness is directly proportional to your stupidity. I'd say you're very very fat.

 

[see4]

GTFO
Trump spoke racist and bigoted remarks all during his campaign. Hell even Bernie spoke on it. His whole campaign slogan was ridden racism. Make America Great Again wink wink again GTFO
So if you cast a fucking vote for someone who says any of those racists bigoted things then you are ok with racism and bigotry. Sorry you can't see this.

Padawan is turning into the padawan of old. Very spoogeshagy.

 

[see4]

If my vote actually mattered, .... I voted because I got to legalize marijuana in the most populous state in the union and become a part of motherfucking history!

Sound logic there.

 

[UncleBuck]

GTFO
Trump spoke racist and bigoted remarks all during his campaign. Hell even Bernie spoke on it. His whole campaign slogan was ridden racism. Make America Great Again wink wink again GTFO
So if you cast a fucking vote for someone who says any of those racists bigoted things then you are ok with racism and bigotry. Sorry you can't see this.

i have a little insight into the racist trump voters based on where i have lived in my life.

i grew up in a backwoods, new jersey town near the pennsylvania border. there used to be a textile, mines, manufacturing, etcetera.

this is the 2nd picture that comes up in an image search when you google it:

romney won that county 57%-41%, 25k votes to 18k votes.

trump won there by 61%-35%, 30k votes to 17k votes.

this county is like pretty much every county in pennsylvania outside of philly and pittsburgh, where hillary's margins were just as good as obama's (and even better than kerry's, and he won PA).

i guarantee you that they did not vote for trump in greater margins because they had "economic anxiety" or think trump is gonna bring back the textile. incomes in warren county average about $66,000 for a family. they are not hurting.

they voted in greater numbers for trump because they are backwards, racist, poorly educated morons. they resented obama a lot and they resented hillary even more. they long for the days of "married with children" again. they hate "the gays" and will say so openly. they hate blacks and jews too, but you'll rarely hear them say it openly. they are threatened by progress for some reason.

a few of us grew out of it, moved to different places, got college educations, and flourished. others just stayed in that shitty little town and got resentful.

multiply that 7k vote differential in places like these across a few dozen rural counties and it is just enough to overtake the cities.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

i have a little insight into the racist trump voters based on where i have lived in my life.

i grew up in a backwoods, new jersey town near the pennsylvania border. there used to be a textile, mines, manufacturing, etcetera.

this is the 2nd picture that comes up in an image search when you google it:

romney won that county 57%-41%, 25k votes to 18k votes.

trump won there by 61%-35%, 30k votes to 17k votes.

this county is like pretty much every county in pennsylvania outside of philly and pittsburgh, where hillary's margins were just as good as obama's (and even better than kerry's, and he won PA).

i guarantee you that they did not vote for trump in greater margins because they had "economic anxiety" or think trump is gonna bring back the textile. incomes in warren county average about $66,000 for a family. they are not hurting.

they voted in greater numbers for trump because they are backwards, racist, poorly educated morons. they resented obama a lot and they resented hillary even more. they long for the days of "married with children" again. they hate "the gays" and will say so openly. they hate blacks and jews too, but you'll rarely hear them say it openly. they are threatened by progress for some reason.

a few of us grew out of it, moved to different places, got college educations, and flourished. others just stayed in that shitty little town and got resentful.

multiply that 7k vote differential in places like these across a few dozen rural counties and it is just enough to overtake the cities.

Everybody who isn't deluding themselves knows what this 'change' really meant.

They didn't like taking orders from a black man the last 8 years, and Hillary was an extension of the Obama administration.

And even at that, the current updated popular vote count is:

HRC - 63,515,588 - 47.9%

ASS - 61,917,320 - 46.7%

That's a lot of separation.

 

[twostrokenut]

Everybody who isn't deluding themselves knows what this 'change' really meant.

They didn't like taking orders from a black man the last 8 years, and Hillary was an extension of the Obama administration.

And even at that, the current updated popular vote count is:

HRC - 63,515,588 - 47.9%

ASS - 61,917,320 - 46.7%

That's a lot of separation.

You know California is a really big state, didn't know if they taught you that but now you know.

 

[UncleBuck]

Everybody who isn't deluding themselves knows what this 'change' really meant.

They didn't like taking orders from a black man the last 8 years, and Hillary was an extension of the Obama administration.

not nly that, but obama only talked about race, and what it meant. he did it in a very non-threatening way.

hillary point blank called out racism. called trump a racist. rightly pointed out that at least half of his supporters are racists (lowball figure, but true enough). and she did it all while being white.

to my grade school mates who stayed in that shitty little town, did nothing to ever better themselves, lived in their little bubble, and got resentful, i guarantee you they took that as a direct threat.

 

[UncleBuck]

California is a really big state

good job! you are very smart!

i award you one star for your efforts.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

You know California is a really big state, didn't know if they taught you that but now you know.

Sounds like you don't like California much the same way you don't like 'purples'.

 

[twostrokenut]

Sounds like you don't like California much the same way you don't like 'purples'.

I love California. I love pointing out the difference in your popular vote numbers does not exceed the difference in California.

 

[UncleBuck]

popular vote numbers does not exceed the difference in California.

that would be quite relevant if california were not a state in the union, but it is. it's the biggest one.

partial star for trying.

 

[twostrokenut]

There are new numbers for those on the SJW left that are a little slow.................

Clinton 63,551,937
Trump 61,898,577

3/4 of this difference is in LA county. 75% for you statistics majors.

 

[twostrokenut]

It's Hillaryarious that yall keep repeating this popular vote shit.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's Hillaryarious that yall keep repeating this popular vote shit.

 

[ttystikk]

not nly that, but obama only talked about race, and what it meant. he did it in a very non-threatening way.

hillary point blank called out racism. called trump a racist. rightly pointed out that at least half of his supporters are racists (lowball figure, but true enough). and she did it all while being white.

to my grade school mates who stayed in that shitty little town, did nothing to ever better themselves, lived in their little bubble, and got resentful, i guarantee you they took that as a direct threat.

This has the ring of truth and it sure squares well with my own experience living among similar white people in Arkansas.

I'll grant that at least half of all Chump voters are racist to a significant degree.

That said, I still think we have very serious economic problems in this country. I think Mrs Clinton sent exactly the wrong message when she set up white noise generators at (expensive) private fundraisers. I think her following the Republican party's lead of cozying up to Wall Street and megacorps rubbed a large section of the rank and file the wrong way.

Don't let 'average' income numbers fool you; income inequality has gotten severe enough to skew this statistic. A much better one is MEDIAN income, which is the income the 50th percentile earner makes. In fact the difference between these two numbers says a lot about income inequality in this country.

Racism is part of the problem, but it's not the main reason Trump won

Anyone who thinks it is has the SJW stick too far up their ass to see the reality for what it actually is

We might be trying to say the same thing.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'll grant that at least half of all Chump voters are racist to a significant degree.

that was probably the easiest concession you'll make this year!

... (expensive) private fundraisers...cozying up to Wall Street and megacorps

i won't buy this message for a second. the people who never got educated, never explored the country, and just stayed in that small town getting resentful are the same people trump would not pay, then threaten to sue. the same people whose steel he would pass over for chinese steel. the same ones who have no idea what a tariff even is, nor how it would effect the price of the walmart goods they subsist on.

he held the same expensive fundraisers, and his appointments of wall street insiders tells the tale.

trump was not the type of guy who these hicks would want to have a beer with. they held their nose on his shittiness as a human being so they could vote for the muslim ban and the wall to get rid of mexicans and to bring law and order to those blacks who can't walk down the street without getting shot. that was what the people i am describing voted for.

Don't let 'average' income numbers fool you; income inequality has gotten severe enough to skew this statistic. A much better one is MEDIAN income, which is the income the 50th percentile earner makes.

it actually was median income, i misspoke.



these people are not hurting. they are doing fine. i see them on facebook all the time.

they did not hold their nose on the racism to vote for the economic message, they held their nose on the economic message to vote for the racism if anything.

many of them are too dumb to even understand what his economic message was. the rest of us know it is a disastrous message. tariffs and protectionism and repealing the estate tax and a massive tax break to top earners are just idiotic. a few of these idiots probably thought that estate taxes meant property taxes. they are fucking dumb.

 

[ttystikk]

that was probably the easiest concession you'll make this year!



i won't buy this message for a second. the people who never got educated, never explored the country, and just stayed in that small town getting resentful are the same people trump would not pay, then threaten to sue. the same people whose steel he would pass over for chinese steel. the same ones who have no idea what a tariff even is, nor how it would effect the price of the walmart goods they subsist on.

he held the same expensive fundraisers, and his appointments of wall street insiders tells the tale.

trump was not the type of guy who these hicks would want to have a beer with. they held their nose on his shittiness as a human being so they could vote for the muslim ban and the wall to get rid of mexicans and to bring law and order to those blacks who can't walk down the street without getting shot. that was what the people i am describing voted for.



it actually was median income, i misspoke.

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these people are not hurting. they are doing fine. i see them on facebook all the time.

they did not hold their nose on the racism to vote for the economic message, they held their nose on the economic message to vote for the racism if anything.

many of them are too dumb to even understand what his economic message was. the rest of us know it is a disastrous message. tariffs and protectionism and repealing the estate tax and a massive tax break to top earners are just idiotic. a few of these idiots probably thought that estate taxes meant property taxes. they are fucking dumb.

Those dumb racists seem to be making a pretty good living. What's wrong with this picture?

 

[UncleBuck]

Those dumb racists seem to be making a pretty good living. What's wrong with this picture?

he also did better with college educated whites than expected, although that voting bloc did move overall to clinton.

keep in mind, people like tbonejack and desert dude (may he RIP) claim they are "college educated". and those dumb fucks apparently attended different classes than the rest of us, because they are even more bitter and resentful of women, black people, muslims, gay people, hispanics, and other minority groups than those uneducated backwoods fucks i grew up with.

then there are women like @Flaming Pie and @roseypeach . just look at these wastes of humanity. both of them are on government healthcare, and voted for the guy who will strip them of the welfare they depend on. roseypeach even stated, unironically, that welfare was so unfair to white people and so catering to minorities, even as she herself takes her disability check and her food stamps, and her free medicare, and is white. there are a lot of stupid white women out there.