still in flower week 8ish

[TigerSquad]

This is my first grow and im honestly surprised that my plants are still in flower and havent hermed out or yeilded nothing. But were in flower going into week 8. I know this is because ive fucked with them and fucked with them. They went from cfl to led to MH to now hps i have burnt leaves with the hps light and fucked them with fertilizer issues. I was getting small twisted leaves so i got this stuff thats 0-50-30 and you start with an 8th of a tea spoon the first week ( not with anything else) i do believe thats why im getting these issues with the leaves like they ate now. There is the ine plant all three are clones of 2 diffrent plants. They grew all wacky but i have put a shit ton of extra time in because of moving grow set ups and lights soil . nitrogen lockout. Pretty sure shock severl times. But the plant smells good and i dont know what to do next


The little guys are just getting distilled water with the occisional superthrive. But im getting leave burns and idk if i may have used a water jug that had some residue in it from the gangster brand shit. But i want them to be happy lol please help.

 

[vaporz]

pic 10 looks like lack of nitrogen,,,maybe all of them might be some nitro def since the pic you posted is 0-50-30....if the other 2 plants on that table get same treatment they probably be yellowing real soon to

the first 4 pics you posted other than wondering why they are so small and compact which nothing is wrong with that..I understand some people don't have alot of room for grow space or really have to keep it concealed and on the down low and cant be caring for bushes inside their dwellings.....but I dont really see much out of the normal with those pics,look pretty much how they should look in my opinion

 

[vaporz]

do you have a way of testing pH of water, I saw in post you say been using distilled water but are you able to pH it and know what you are putting into it for exact certain? can you test the runoff?

 

[tonygreen]

They all look over watered to me. Small plants, too much dirt, not enough aeration and way too much water.

 

[TigerSquad]

They all look over watered to me. Small plants, too much dirt, not enough aeration and way too much water.

I was concerned about the watering but there is a 12×12 square cut out of the bottom backside of the unit were the sealed unit and fans would go. I built a box out of foam board and ran a hose out of that to a blower fan. Then the old fan that was for the inside of the refrigerator is now mounted on the inside of the left wall blowing air off the hps fixture then on the top i have a desk fan i took off of its mount and is now sucking the hot air from the inside of the unit and blowing it out of an purge hole i cut in the top.

Every day the soil is dry and the containers are half their weight. ( i use extra perlite for better draining) so i dont think its over watering. Now the sprouts are getting wateredonce every 2 days.
Also i use the perlite eyeballed at about 40%. I was getting root decay. Vut im gonna watch it closer because i was wondering if it could be an issue

 

[TigerSquad]

do you have a way of testing pH of water, I saw in post you say been using distilled water but are you able to pH it and know what you are putting into it for exact certain? can you test the runoff?

When i do use the gangster brand it self adjusts ph to 7. But i use only 1 brand of distilled water and i have tested its ph an its always right at 7.5.

Also i was under the impression that plants in flower need no Nitrogen; awhile back the two thicker ones were badly locked out by me using happy frog 555 and then watering with foxfarms bigbloom (its very week @ .5-1-1... I think im not looking at the bottle. But i only did it because a soil ph kit told me everything was week. So i used the happy frog as a top feed and watered with a diluted by half fox farms big bloom.
There are pics in my content if your intreasted but no worries.

But could they get lock out from the 50 30.

 

[TigerSquad]

pic 10 looks like lack of nitrogen,,,maybe all of them might be some nitro def since the pic you posted is 0-50-30....if the other 2 plants on that table get same treatment they probably be yellowing real soon to

the first 4 pics you posted other than wondering why they are so small and compact which nothing is wrong with that..I understand some people don't have alot of room for grow space or really have to keep it concealed and on the down low and cant be caring for bushes inside their dwellings.....but I dont really see much out of the normal with those pics,look pretty much how they should look in my opinion

They have but i was also told as they begin to ripen they start to use the rest of the sugars in the leaves. I looked today and the biggest one should have mostly amber trichs in 2 or 3 days but the other is ready today. I just gave it an xtra day to get it in.

You had asked about the size and yeah lol. I had one in a shed growing (turned into a clone plant). I took so manny cutting trying to get one to take and it was a loss but i did get some to take. These are them. My wife didnt want me doing a long veg on them because she dosent like them in the house. And i built a box to go in the atic and they all ended up flowerimg on an 18\6 cycle lol virgan marry (jane) they are actually on a 15/10 cycle becuse a friend recomended it to fatten them up because they didnt strech much.

 

[TigerSquad]

They have but i was also told as they begin to ripen they start to use the rest of the sugars in the leaves. I looked today and the biggest one should have mostly amber trichs in 2 or 3 days but the other is ready today. I just gave it an xtra day to get it in.

You had asked about the size and yeah lol. I had one in a shed growing (turned into a clone plant). I took so manny cutting trying to get one to take and it was a loss but i did get some to take. These are them. My wife didnt want me doing a long veg on them because she dosent like them in the house. And i built a box to go in the atic and they all ended up flowerimg on an 18\6 cycle lol virgan marry (jane) they are actually on a 15/10 cycle becuse a friend recomended it to fatten them up because they didnt strech much.

The skinny one is a clone from a dif mom but shes always struggled siencw the day she started to flower. But her veg cycle was crazy. She was monster cropped

 

[vaporz]

When i do use the gangster brand it self adjusts ph to 7. But i use only 1 brand of distilled water and i have tested its ph an its always right at 7.5.

Also i was under the impression that plants in flower need no Nitrogen; awhile back the two thicker ones were badly locked out by me using happy frog 555 and then watering with foxfarms bigbloom (its very week @ .5-1-1... I think im not looking at the bottle. But i only did it because a soil ph kit told me everything was week. So i used the happy frog as a top feed and watered with a diluted by half fox farms big bloom.
There are pics in my content if your intreasted but no worries.

But could they get lock out from the 50 30.

i think they need a little bit of nitrogen during that transition period between veg and flower,but after that first week or second week the nutrient focus is mainly the P-K.....i think that .5-1-1 stuff is probably what you need to use,,sounds really weak by going by those numbers but it isnt as weak as one might imagine i dont think...it could even turn out to be stronger than the 0-50-30 stuff believe or not...I just started growing myself this past summer so I like to be careful what kind of info I share because I learn something new each and everyday really. Myself I am struggling with some nitrogen toxicity...not sure how it happened but it did and Im trying to deal with that at the moment in my grow.

 

[TigerSquad]

i think they need a little bit of nitrogen during that transition period between veg and flower,but after that first week or second week the nutrient focus is mainly the P-K.....i think that .5-1-1 stuff is probably what you need to use,,sounds really weak by going by those numbers but it isnt as weak as one might imagine i dont think...it could even turn out to be stronger than the 0-50-30 stuff believe or not...I just started growing myself this past summer so I like to be careful what kind of info I share because I learn something new each and everyday really. Myself I am struggling with some nitrogen toxicity...not sure how it happened but it did and Im trying to deal with that at the moment in my grow.

Yeah the dude at the hydro store recomended it because the leaves were super small and twisted so i was putting banna peel and dolomite lime in a fruit ninja bullet and pureed the shit outta it and it worked a little and very slowly but i believed at the time thats what is goimg on the nitrogen from the bannas breaking down is causing me issues . but they guy gave me the new stuff and told me to cut it by a third of the label. The first two weeks the big bloom is good like you said but you can add this stuff to it he even said it would be cool but ever 3 waterings only. Then go to the 50 30 but im gonna loom into a soil ph kit that works and im picking a water ph kit tonight. Thanks for the look