premade cob system's worth a damn?

[BlazingGunner]

Also, lets not get bogged down in whether or not these premade cobs are "best" or not. Im sure all the premade cobs listed here have been tested enough to prove that there are at absolute minimum "somewhat decent" like the OP asked...

If he wants the latest and greatest tech in his light, why not just go the actual DIY route?

yeah that's all i want is something thats actually some what decent not godly tho your right i'll probably go DIY


thanks for all the replies i will be looking into the brands mentioned

 

[PetFlora]

No, you're not getting what I mean. The 3070 is an older model. It isn't just that one's 27mm and the other is 34mm, they are different generations. And my point is, obviously the CXB 3590s would be a better choice based on both size and generation. So Amare charges you more for a smallwr, more outdated emitter set when you can get a better one for cheaper.

But he now uses 3590s in his more powerful models.

 

[JDMase]

Ok, but its also a smaller model... Same as 18 vs 29.

I really dont know why people are still on cree chips so much with the competition that is out there though..

What chips out there are a better choice? Or is it similar performance to Cree for a cheaper price point?

 

[Rahz]

Both Vero and Citizen CLU are better values. Going with 3590s still isn't a "bad" choice, but about 30-35% more in cost to get the same efficiency/output.

 

[Rahz]

Both Vero and Citizen CLU are better values. Going with 3590s still isn't a "bad" choice, but about 30-35% more in cost to get the same efficiency/output.

I should say 30-35% more cost in emitters. % of total system cost will be less than that.

 

[wietefras]

No, you're not getting what I mean. The 3070 is an older model.

There is a CXB3070 which is the same tech as the CXB3590 , but smaller.

The CXB3070 at 50W is similar in efficiency and price per PAR wattt compared to a CXB3590 at 61.5W

 

[Hybridway]

My Amares are great.
They use CXB 3070 or 3590 for cobs at this time. He upgrades everytime new tech comes out.
The monos (xp-g3 + xp-g2) on the veg switch allows you to veg w/ a proper veg spectrum rather than 35k as well as grow w/ 95 CRI peaking where it counts in R+B, built in reflectors w/ optional lenses provide the highest par #'s I've seen from any cob light, copper-core heat-sinks, plus a 5 yr warranty sets them apart from the rest.
They offer multiple different sizes & dimensions to suit your grow & are always on sale through the company.
Top-bin diodes & cobs. MeanWell drivers in the Pro-series & LS drivers in the SE-450.

And yes, what these guys are saying about CXB-3070's & 3590's is right. They are exactly the same thing except one is a little bigger then the other. They are the same efficiency when ran at the same percentage of their total consumption.

They do need to get their web-site done already.
I own 2 Pro-4's, 1 SE-450, & 1 Pro-9.

The other cob lights mentioned I hear are good too though.
Good luck!

 

[Hybridway]

I noticed nobody mentioned Blondes. They have some big boys & they're Competitive pricewise w/ DIY pre-fab.

 

[Hybridway]

But he now uses 3590s in his more powerful models.

He keeps talking about CXA's I think, which Amare hasn't used since CXB's came out.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

He keeps talking about CXA's I think, which Amare hasn't used since CXB's came out.

I mean, I could be wrong, but CXAs are listed on their site, I'm not just making it up, being a pompous little cunt, guys. All of you take me for being way more hardline than I actually am. I only try to give people what I'm seeing, not shut anyone down.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Here's my current grow, grown under just two of those black Tasty fixtures, the T1-2100s, until today, when I received my third and final addition, the T1-V196. The T1-2100 are very similar to the T1-V196, although the V196 is sightly more powerful, hence why it's right in the middle. I have a 4x2 closet to cover, and if I have 3 fixtures covering and 18x18, that means I can cover up to 4.5x4.5 and my PPFD is still in optimum range., with overlap probably bringing it close to 1000. That will probably account for 95% of growth potential, and I'm fine with that. So, for $615 over the course of three months, I'm truly happy with what I got. Not saying it's better or worse, the Amare site must need updated is all.

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The T1-V196 horticultural lamp from Tasty LED use a Vero29 LED emitter driven at 85 watts providing 50% emitter efficiency at full power and higher efficiencies when dimmed.

TECHNICAL INFORMATION:

Total wattage: 95
Lumens: 13,560
PAR watts: 42
PPF: 196
Efficiency: 50%

Emitters: 1 Vero 29C 3500K 90CRI
Current: 1670ma
Watts each: 85

Power supply: Meanwell LPF series
Efficiency: 90-91%

Space usage and light intensity in vegetative and flowering mode:
The recommended minimum and maximum flowering and full cycle footprints are at 500 and 1200 PPFD.
The recommended minimum and maximum vegetative footprints are at 300 and 700 PPFD.
-18" x 18" 932 PPFD
-24" x 24" 524 PPFD
-30" x 30" 336 PPFD

OPERATION:

-The dimmer switch and knob are located beside each other.
-The dimmer switch can be used to flip between the dimming knob's setting and full power.
-Turn the dimmer switch off to insure max brightness.
-For proper coverage keep the lamp 14-16 inches from the canopy.
-Up to 3 lamps can be daisy chained with connector cords.

Built to last. 36 month warranty covers any manufacturing defects. See terms and conditions for details.

 

[PetFlora]

He keeps talking about CXA's I think, which Amare hasn't used since CXB's came out.

Unfortunately he has an old product page to go by

 

[Hybridway]

Here's my current grow, grown under just two of those black Tasty fixtures, the T1-2100s, until today, when I received my third and final addition, the T1-V196. The T1-2100 are very similar to the T1-V196, although the V196 is sightly more powerful, hence why it's right in the middle. I have a 4x2 closet to cover, and if I have 3 fixtures covering and 18x18, that means I can cover up to 4.5x4.5 and my PPFD is still in optimum range., with overlap probably bringing it close to 1000. That will probably account for 95% of growth potential, and I'm fine with that. So, for $615 over the course of three months, I'm truly happy with what I got. Not saying it's better or worse, the Amare site must need updated is all.

----


The T1-V196 horticultural lamp from Tasty LED use a Vero29 LED emitter driven at 85 watts providing 50% emitter efficiency at full power and higher efficiencies when dimmed.

TECHNICAL INFORMATION:

Total wattage: 95
Lumens: 13,560
PAR watts: 42
PPF: 196
Efficiency: 50%

Emitters: 1 Vero 29C 3500K 90CRI
Current: 1670ma
Watts each: 85

Power supply: Meanwell LPF series
Efficiency: 90-91%

Space usage and light intensity in vegetative and flowering mode:
The recommended minimum and maximum flowering and full cycle footprints are at 500 and 1200 PPFD.
The recommended minimum and maximum vegetative footprints are at 300 and 700 PPFD.
-18" x 18" 932 PPFD
-24" x 24" 524 PPFD
-30" x 30" 336 PPFD

OPERATION:

-The dimmer switch and knob are located beside each other.
-The dimmer switch can be used to flip between the dimming knob's setting and full power.
-Turn the dimmer switch off to insure max brightness.
-For proper coverage keep the lamp 14-16 inches from the canopy.
-Up to 3 lamps can be daisy chained with connector cords.

Built to last. 36 month warranty covers any manufacturing defects. See terms and conditions for details.

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Real nice ! The high CRI really produces trichs Early hu! Good write up bud.
I like the high CRI to.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Real nice ! The high CRI really produces trichs Early hu! Good write up bud.
I like the high CRI to.

Thanks, man!

I really like Tasty. Like Rahz, here, is an honest guy, working kinda like Growmau5, but I don't think he grows himself. But he's one of RIU's sponsors, so I feel like I helping everything with RIU if I'm ordering semi in-house. Besides, he uses higher amperages (1670-2150nA) for his fixtures. I kind of like that. It's pretty much the median of the chip's maximum amperage rating, and it's still under 100w per fixture, so economic efficiency is less of a concern.

For example: Cree CXB3590's rating is 3600. He runs them at 2150. Being on the medium, it still preserves the life of the chip, because it still isn't being run close to it's max capacity, and thus, its failure point.

 

[714steadyeddie]

What's everyone's take on the cxp420By Pacfic light.

$800 usd to replace a 600w hps and a 315w,

 

[Hybridway]

Thanks, man!

I really like Tasty. Like Rahz, here, is an honest guy, working kinda like Growmau5, but I don't think he grows himself. But he's one of RIU's sponsors, so I feel like I helping everything with RIU if I'm ordering semi in-house. Besides, he uses higher amperages (1670-2150nA) for his fixtures. I kind of like that. It's pretty much the median of the chip's maximum amperage rating, and it's still under 100w per fixture, so economic efficiency is less of a concern.

For example: Cree CXB3590's rating is 3600. He runs them at 2150. Being on the medium, it still preserves the life of the chip, because it still isn't being run close to it's max capacity, and thus, its failure point.

Yeah, I like that Tasty offers higher currents. Get more from your light.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Yeah, I like that Tasty offers higher currents. Get more from your light.

Right. And then you can run fewer emitters. That works out well for my closet grow.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

What's everyone's take on the cxp420By Pacfic light.

$800 usd to replace a 600w hps and a 315w,

No experience. PLC's supposed to be good, though. Amare is, too. I only ever heard good things about Amare.

 

[Greengenes707]

What's everyone's take on the cxp420By Pacific light.

$800 usd to replace a 600w hps and a 315w,

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