doingdishes
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what if a patient has 1 lic for 98 plants...20g a day?
if you wanted only 100 plants, that would be it for you.
playing devils advocate here
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if you wanted only 100 plants, that would be it for you.
playing devils advocate here
Brewery
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Hippy,
Do you agree with bm growers hiding behind a medical license? Cause that's what benben is trying to do...
If you've got the balls to sell to the bm, have the balls to not hide behind the fragile medical system. Med patients need our rights to grow for ourselves. Just my opinion anyways.
redi jedi
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Sounds like you agree with the man putting people in jail for growing a plant if they're not sick.
The Hippy
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I'm for anything but the legal system of LP's. No issue with it at all. Anything that fuck the gov's ass is good by me. If someone uses their system to reverse screw them...I'm in.
AFTER ALL WHO IS TRYING TO FUCK WHO's ASS RAW HERE. It's not the Bm ...it the greed bag Government who NOW see's profit in something they were good to jail you for before.
If you don't think that's a good deal...go suck off harper or trudeau. Until JT let's up trying to figure out how to line his pockets and his buddies pockets...GO BM AND MED GROWER...SELL SELL SELL TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT.
THERE IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YA's ??????????
It's not the mmar growers who fucked this up.......IT'S THE CUNTS WHO ARE CALLED GOVERNMENT AND THE PROHIBITION THEY IMPOSED WAY BACK. TOO BAD THEY WERE SO STUPID THEN EH???
NOW THEY ARE SORRY BECAUSE THEY WANT YOUR MONEY...FUCK THEM AND THEIR MOTHERS.
YUP MMAR GROWERS...DIVERT DIVERT DIVERT......I LOVE YA'S AND hate the Lp's supporters
Hide behind a med license all you want folks...it's a war and all is fair. What the matter GOV & HC...not happy becaue you ani't makin the money you thought you should...hahahahahahahahaha
GO @Ben-Ben grow grow grow...sell sell sell.
Brewery
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putting words in my mouth there RediJedi,
I just feel very strongly that the current medical program is fragile(remember temporary) and I disagree with people hiding behind it to sell to the bm. the mmar was rife with diversion and I fear that this very issue with be used against med patients again.
In a perfect world, cannabis would be unregulated completely and this whole topic would be a moot point. Now we're not in a perfect world now are we...
redi jedi
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Its all about one thing and one thing only....
The Hippy
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I'm for anything but the legal system of LP's. No issue with it at all. Anything that fuck the gov's ass is good by me. If someone uses their system to reverse screw them...I'm in.
AFTER ALL WHO IS TRYING TO FUCK WHO's ASS RAW HERE. It's not the Bm ...it the greed bag Government who NOW see's profit in something they were good to jail you for before.
If you don't think that's a good deal...go suck off harper or trudeau. Until JT let's up trying to figure out how to line his pockets and his buddies pockets...GO BM AND MED GROWER...SELL SELL SELL TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT.
THERE IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YA's ??????????
It's not the mmar growers who fucked this up.......IT'S THE CUNTS WHO ARE CALLED GOVERNMENT AND THE PROHIBITION THEY IMPOSED WAY BACK. TOO BAD THEY WERE SO STUPID THEN EH???
NOW THEY ARE SORRY BECAUSE THEY WANT YOUR MONEY...FUCK THEM AND THEIR MOTHERS.
YUP MMAR GROWERS...DIVERT DIVERT DIVERT......I LOVE YA'S AND hate the Lp's supporters
Hide behind a med license all you want folks...it's a war and all is fair. What the matter GOV & HC...not happy becaue you ani't makin the money you thought you should...hahahahahahahahaha
GO @Ben-Ben grow grow grow...sell sell sell.
AFTER ALL WHO IS TRYING TO FUCK WHO's ASS RAW HERE. It's not the Bm ...it the greed bag Government who NOW see's profit in something they were good to jail you for before.
If you don't think that's a good deal...go suck off harper or trudeau. Until JT let's up trying to figure out how to line his pockets and his buddies pockets...GO BM AND MED GROWER...SELL SELL SELL TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT.
THERE IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YA's ??????????
It's not the mmar growers who fucked this up.......IT'S THE CUNTS WHO ARE CALLED GOVERNMENT AND THE PROHIBITION THEY IMPOSED WAY BACK. TOO BAD THEY WERE SO STUPID THEN EH???
NOW THEY ARE SORRY BECAUSE THEY WANT YOUR MONEY...FUCK THEM AND THEIR MOTHERS.
YUP MMAR GROWERS...DIVERT DIVERT DIVERT......I LOVE YA'S AND hate the Lp's supporters
Hide behind a med license all you want folks...it's a war and all is fair. What the matter GOV & HC...not happy becaue you ani't makin the money you thought you should...hahahahahahahahaha
GO @Ben-Ben grow grow grow...sell sell sell.
GroErr
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Apologies if I piss anyone off but DG's who start off with "lucrative" and "5g per day or higher" in their pitch are no different than LP's to me. And I agree, they are also the one's who f'd up the MMAR, I've said it directly to their faces to a couple I've met. F'n dirt bags imo.
I have no problem with someone becoming a DG but there's a difference when the end game is volume, $$ and re-direction, that's no different than greedy investors or LP's trying to make a buck off the sick while they wait for rec to be legalized.
I also have no problem with BM growers, everyone's up for an extra buck. But at least they're not hiding behind medical and contributing to more regulations/hurdles down the road for actual patients who want to grow their own, or DG's who give a shit about their patients.
Call a spade a spade.
I have no problem with someone becoming a DG but there's a difference when the end game is volume, $$ and re-direction, that's no different than greedy investors or LP's trying to make a buck off the sick while they wait for rec to be legalized.
I also have no problem with BM growers, everyone's up for an extra buck. But at least they're not hiding behind medical and contributing to more regulations/hurdles down the road for actual patients who want to grow their own, or DG's who give a shit about their patients.
Call a spade a spade.
The Hippy
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So that fact that the government saw a good deal and is now trying to make it their good deal is fine?? Fuck that attitude. All they are trying to do is make someone else business theirs. And it's FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN MONEY.
They thought weed was so bad they ruined folks lives for it. but now it's cool cause they can profit.
Well who here is gonna tell me and everyone else that they are doing this for the good of mankind...gimme a fuckin break...wake the fuck up.
It's a wagon train jumping greed party is all it is. The good of the people...fuck off with that fairy tale.
The government simply want to be the new black market.....nothing more than that.
STOP thinking they have any aspiration beyond your money.....don't be stupid and give it to them.
redi jedi
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There was plenty of patients selling to the BM also. You cant point one finger at it.
itsmehigh
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7.5lbs a month scripted, but you and I know you can turn 40gpd into 75lbs a month.
Itsme
CalyxCrusher
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Id say its more about keeping people from hiding behind the guise of medical and fucking it all up. Completely aside from the obvious, which is of course that no one should be arrested for cannabis
If hes sick sign up and get the 100 plants for him and his partners. Otherwise wait until legalization. All it shows is a complete lack of fucking respect of descency towards the sick, the people the program was made for.
And Im all for fucking the man as well hippy, sure diversion hurts LPs except the only people who pay for that kinda shit arent the multi millionaire LPs its the patients.
GroErr
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No idea what you just said or what it has to do with my post. My only issue is with DG's that specifically go after medical licenses to make a buck off sick people and hide behind the license.
The biggest problem in my books with skimming medical is when $ are the primary focus, as it clearly is for the op, then bad decisions get made. In medical I want the cleanest weed, but $ driven decisions mean quantity vs. quality. Short cuts get taken, potentially harmful products get used to "save" crops, a "little" PM gets the Ok, etc... $ driven decisions are rarely good decisions.
That's why I grow my own and I don't give a rats ass about what the laws or medical programs are, I'll always grow my own medicine. Not everyone in medical grows for the money Hippy, but do agree with your point about the government being in it for the money, just not sure what it had to do with the subject...
redi jedi
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Thats the thing...most DG's are not making money off the sick, and there's enough supply around now you wont stay in business if your product is sub par.
You can go buy a medical document, get licensed. I see that as playing the game not hiding. The best part is anyone can play.
You can go buy a medical document, get licensed. I see that as playing the game not hiding. The best part is anyone can play.
duchieman
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Like everything in life, there are certain people who try to do something themselves only to discover, one way or another, that they're not able to and need to have/pay somebody else to do it for them. These people tend to start out on forums like Rollitup and who need somewhere to just obtain it, no hassle. LP's are for this right now as that's the only legal option. (Some people are coming into this who have never broken a law and want to stay that way). Now before you get off in a huff Hippy, I hate LP's as much as you do but, I believe there is room in this market for everyone, including them, but they're just being fucking greedy pigs about it. Nevertheless, until we fix that part and get dispensaries legal too, they are the only option right now for people who can't grow their own.
I've also been watching medical MJ in Canada for a long time now, mostly starting with the Mernagh case that brought in the MMPR, to the injunction and the Allard case (everyday on Twitter) and I've been waiting for this day for a long time. (I've been smoking since 79). That said, I am totally against anybody making money off of this and fucking things right up for me and everyone else who has fought for this. I'm just glad I can do what I love which is growing what I love and if they take that away from us there will be a lot of pissed off and hurt people including me. I will never do, or advocate for, anything that might jeopardize this.
What I would like to see, is every ACMPR home grower who has extra room/equipment, use the right they've been given to be a DG, and help someone out who can't grow and can't afford LP's. Maybe they just cover your costs like hydro and extra lighting, soil...
Also, I'm pretty sure that most of us will be growing quite a bit more than what we will use, so I would advocate for a compassionate collective that ACMPR growers could 'donate' their excess to. There are way too many people out there that are still choosing between their meds and food/rent/bills. Let's help them get some meds so they can use their money for the other necessities and live with a little peace of mind. Not like these so called "Compassion Clubs, like the one in my town, that still charge BM rates and sell sub par product. Not very compassionate if you ask me.
That's my rant.
I've also been watching medical MJ in Canada for a long time now, mostly starting with the Mernagh case that brought in the MMPR, to the injunction and the Allard case (everyday on Twitter) and I've been waiting for this day for a long time. (I've been smoking since 79). That said, I am totally against anybody making money off of this and fucking things right up for me and everyone else who has fought for this. I'm just glad I can do what I love which is growing what I love and if they take that away from us there will be a lot of pissed off and hurt people including me. I will never do, or advocate for, anything that might jeopardize this.
What I would like to see, is every ACMPR home grower who has extra room/equipment, use the right they've been given to be a DG, and help someone out who can't grow and can't afford LP's. Maybe they just cover your costs like hydro and extra lighting, soil...
Also, I'm pretty sure that most of us will be growing quite a bit more than what we will use, so I would advocate for a compassionate collective that ACMPR growers could 'donate' their excess to. There are way too many people out there that are still choosing between their meds and food/rent/bills. Let's help them get some meds so they can use their money for the other necessities and live with a little peace of mind. Not like these so called "Compassion Clubs, like the one in my town, that still charge BM rates and sell sub par product. Not very compassionate if you ask me.
That's my rant.
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The Hippy
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Sorry GroErr...wasn't meant to disrespect you at all. I really wasn't meaning you at all actually if that clears that up.
Cool.
The Hippy
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Mostly agree.. all good...just not the LP's have a place part...fuck them and their businesses.Like everything in life, there are certain people who try to do something themselves only to discover, one way or another, that they're not able to and need to have/pay somebody else to do it for them. These people tend to start out on forums like Rollitup and who need somewhere to just obtain it.LP's are for this right now as that's the only legal option. (Some people are coming into this who have never broken a law and want to stay that way). Now before you get off in a huff Hippy, I hate LP's as much as you do but, I believe there is room in this market for everyone, including them, but they're just being fucking greedy pigs about it. Nevertheless, until we fix that part and get dispensaries legal too, they are the only option right now for people who can't grow their own.
I've also been watching medical MJ in Canada for a long time now, mostly starting with the Mernagh case that brought in the MMPR, to the injunction and the Allard case (everyday on Twitter) and I've been waiting for this day for a long time. (I've been smoking since 79). That said, I am totally against anybody making money off of this and fucking things right up for me and everyone else who has fought for this. I'm just glad I can do what I love which is growing what I love and if they take that away from us there will be a lot of pissed off and hurt people including me. I will never do, or advocate for, anything that might jeopardize this.
What I would like to see, is every ACMPR home grower who has extra room/equipment, use the right they've been given to be a DG, and help someone out who can't grow and can't afford LP's. Maybe they just cover your costs like hydro and extra lighting, soil...
Also, I'm pretty sure that most of us will be growing quite a bit more than what we will use, so I would advocate for a compassionate collective that ACMPR growers could 'donate' their excess to. There are way too many people out there that are still choosing between their meds and food/rent/bills. Let's help them get some meds so they can use their money for the other necessities and live with a little peace of mind. Not like these so called "Compassion Clubs, like the one in my town, that still charge BM rates and sell sub par product. Not very compassionate if you ask me.
That's my rant.
Peace Bro.
Boycott LP's and pass it on please. Let's fight back!
duchieman
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The whole reason I avoided getting my prescription when the MMPR was in place was because I've been boycotting the LP's and refused to register with such a system. Since Aug came I finally got my script. The final part of the "assessment" was to see a "counselor" who sets you up with an LP. I told this young girl that I would be growing for myself and the only thing I need from her was to print off my prescription so I could leave. That consult was probably the quickest one she's ever had.
I agree with you about LP's. Too many people who have been fighting and fighting and fighting; risking their welfare and freedom, to get here and for them to just be pushed aside, expected to just conform, is sad, ridiculous and just plain laughable. The only thing that will kill the black market completely will be full legalization. Anything shy of that and it will thrive.