Assange: Sanders Wife Death Threat..

[OddBall1st]

There is a difference between dealing with Russia, which is necessary, and throwing love to Putin, which is foolish. People in Russia survive in spite of their government's lawless behavior towards them. Putin and his cronies have a terrible human rights record towards the people of Russia and use terror to maintain control. Belligerence towards Ukraine and military action to acquire Crimea from Ukraine only highlights the fact that Putin's government does what it wants when it wants.

If you sleep with dogs you get fleas. Trump is in bed with Putin. He has fleas. He's hiding his tax filings in order to conceal how deeply indebted he is to Russian cronies of Putin.

Don`t throw Crimea at me man.

That was all about losing Ukraine and not the Strait.

 

[Fogdog]

Apologist ? Really ??

Every time I think of Russia, it`s not just Government dude. They got beautiful cities. Yes, they got the same shit going on in their Government as us but that don`t read apologist.

Ah, I was waiting for you to ignorantly compare the Russian government's treatment of its citizens to our own. Funny that you criticize Black Lives Matter protests, which is probably the best example of US depredations on it's citizenry. Barring that, what in hell are you talking about?

Two women were sentenced to 2 years of prison for playing protest music at a subway, accused of hooliganism. A protest on the order of a BLM street march would be absolutely trashed by police and military action. There is no free speech in Russia and there is no rule of law to constrain Putin from even taking lives if he deems fit. I'm sure Putin would call you are a useful idiot and you are apologizing for their actions.

We agree about the people of Russia and their beautiful country. But to compare our government with Russia's is pretty ignorant.

 

[Fogdog]

Don`t throw Crimea at me man.

That was all about losing Ukraine and not the Strait.

You are defending the actions of Putin. That's what he did. I can understand why you would want to run away from that.

Don`t throw Crimea at me man.

That was all about losing Ukraine and not the Strait.

Edit: two messages where you selectively run away from your beloved Russian dictator's actions? I'm not throwing Putins actions in the Crimea at you, I'm just pointing out that you are defending the dictator that stole land from Ukraine. And I can understand why you would want to run away from that.

 

[Fogdog]

And that's fine as far as it goes. Those who would make such threats go too far, and must be found, punished and discredited.

Your acceptance with a snide order of misogyny is also much too far.

Politics is exactly as uncivilized as we allow it to be. We must not allow it to be. That's what the Chump's candidacy is all about; those who support him are in effect voting for thugs to rule by force and violence.

What do we know about these threats to Sanders' wife? The link Sky posted was from a Trump message board. A few clicks around the web don't reveal much. What I found was that Putin said he saw something in an e-mail ( he claims to have 10,000 "Hillary messages" in his possession) and Assange said the same thing -- is there any doubt where he got that information? But what exactly are they talking about and why? These statements from Putin and Assange don't seem to be helping us to catch the perpetrator, they are just stirring the pot.

I agree that anybody who makes threats, serious or otherwise, on the lives of politicians or their families should be the maximum punishment and not tolerated by authorities or general population. That "zero tolerance" to threats should also include their political rivals when they make threats (ahem). Its my guess that any threats Sanders received were passed on to authorities. It shouldn't surprise anybody that the authorities aren't talking. On the other hand, is anybody out and out saying that the authorities are colluding with the Clinton campaign to threaten Sanders? That's the implication but I don't believe it.

More stuff from Russia (link below). It's clearly propaganda but contains the message that is being propagated through the Trump message board:
http://yournewswire.com/putin-hacked-emails-reveal-that-clinton-threatened-sanders-wife/

 

[Fogdog]

After 50 years or so lol......it's all a bunch of hate filled rhetoric....that drives the hate and the threats.

If you want to blame someone blame the politicians...they aint helping anything.

I've had people tell me they want to kill me to my face....you think I went around crying about it?

Or try a double barrel 12 gauge pointed right between your eyes. Big barrels I'll tell ya.

So when some wifey po of some candidate gets threatened.....it does not ruffle my feathers at all.

I don't doubt that at some point, you've been threatened and that you saw no potential benefit in reporting it. I don't think this kind of menacing is acceptable but it does happen. Honestly, if somebody threatened me like that, I'd be working full time at making sure they get put away so that they can't hurt me or mine but a report to authorities might just make things worse so I'd be careful about that too.

The difference between you and Sanders is that Sanders is a leader in our democracy. Threatening Sanders or his wife in order to control his actions is a threat to US democracy and by extension is a threat to us all. I don't know why people are blase about Trump's threats to Clinton, so there is a degradation in our public discourse that can't be overlooked. Maybe it is an acceptance by some that male domination of women must naturally include violence. I don't know. I'm not willing to shrug off the threat to Sander's wife as business as usual.

 

[Rob Roy]

We are not part of it, so we really don't know what the threat was.

The DNC scandal exposed what Sanders (and I) had been saying all along..I'm someone on the sidelines and could clearly see what was going on with their collusion with media..you'd have to be blind, not looking or simply not care.

Not care..that brings me to sheeple.

Sadly, Americans are..'not my problem, not my job'. Oligarchical McD/Walmart, Kardashians and everything 'i' iPhone, iPad etc. have replaced baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet.

Everything is 'i'. The most dangerous thought process of all..

No "I" is not the most dangerous thought process if it involves something like, "I will respect your right of self determination and I would like you to respect ,mine. " That process is necessary to ensure peace.

In the alternative, "we" , when it is used in a context like , " I think "we" should do x and I don't care what you think, "we're" doing it anyway, is a dangerous process.

 

[Uberknot]

I don't doubt that at some point, you've been threatened and that you saw no potential benefit in reporting it. I don't think this kind of menacing is acceptable but it does happen. Honestly, if somebody threatened me like that, I'd be working full time at making sure they get put away so that they can't hurt me or mine but a report to authorities might just make things worse so I'd be careful about that too.

The difference between you and Sanders is that Sanders is a leader in our democracy. Threatening Sanders or his wife in order to control his actions is a threat to US democracy and by extension is a threat to us all. I don't know why people are blase about Trump's threats to Clinton, so there is a degradation in our public discourse that can't be overlooked. Maybe it is an acceptance by some that male domination of women must naturally include violence. I don't know. I'm not willing to shrug off the threat to Sander's wife as business as usual.

After reading this and where it came from it can be all fabricated without any proof what so ever.

SO you guys continue to buy into internet gossip and conspiracy theories if you want too....unfollowing.

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

That doesn't mean anything, he's released info before then followed at a later time with citation.

Of all wiki leaks that Assange has blown the whistle on, which of them turned out to have no substance? Please lest them here.

creating & injecting off topic issues is not the way to regain control of the narrative,that's done by proving wiki leaks to #1 have a record of manufacturing evidence,#2 by proving wiki leaks past revelations to be false,and finally #3 by proving the hacked DNC emails to be false info that wasn't sent or received by the DNC & its minions .

the challenge to discredit wiki leaks with facts has not been met.

 

[Rob Roy]

Ah, I was waiting for you to ignorantly compare the Russian government's treatment of its citizens to our own. Funny that you criticize Black Lives Matter protests, which is probably the best example of US depredations on it's citizenry. Barring that, what in hell are you talking about?

Two women were sentenced to 2 years of prison for playing protest music at a subway, accused of hooliganism. A protest on the order of a BLM street march would be absolutely trashed by police and military action. There is no free speech in Russia and there is no rule of law to constrain Putin from even taking lives if he deems fit. I'm sure Putin would call you are a useful idiot and you are apologizing for their actions.

We agree about the people of Russia and their beautiful country. But to compare our government with Russia's is pretty ignorant.

Translation = My massa a heap betta than yo massa, yasshuh, fo sho' "

 

[Rob Roy]

creating & injecting off topic issues is not the way to regain control of the narrative,that's done by proving wiki leaks to #1 have a record of manufacturing evidence,#2 by proving wiki leaks past revelations to be false,and finally #3 by proving the hacked DNC emails to be false info that wasn't sent or received by the DNC & its minions .

the challenge to discredit wiki leaks with facts has not been met.

There was a feeble attempt by Fogdog to malign the source of the truth as being bad, insinuating then, that the truth itself should be discredited. Sounds pretty nationalistic and obtuse.

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

No "I" is not the most dangerous thought process if it involves something like, "I will respect your right of self determination and I would like you to respect ,mine. " That process is necessary to ensure peace.

In the alternative, "we" , when it is used in a context like , " I think "we" should do x and I don't care what you think, "we're" doing it anyway, is a dangerous process.

your forgetting the English language has been rewritten by millennials .

The word " i " is only used to describe what " i " want,the word "we" only applies to the most self righteous,and the word " they" is used to describe everybody except those previously described by "we" .

 

[Rob Roy]

Ah, I was waiting for you to ignorantly compare the Russian government's treatment of its citizens to our own. Funny that you criticize Black Lives Matter protests, which is probably the best example of US depredations on it's citizenry. Barring that, what in hell are you talking about?

Two women were sentenced to 2 years of prison for playing protest music at a subway, accused of hooliganism. A protest on the order of a BLM street march would be absolutely trashed by police and military action. There is no free speech in Russia and there is no rule of law to constrain Putin from even taking lives if he deems fit. I'm sure Putin would call you are a useful idiot and you are apologizing for their actions.

We agree about the people of Russia and their beautiful country. But to compare our government with Russia's is pretty ignorant.

Man, seriously, you should stop slobbering on Uncle Sam's tiny penis and telling him what a whopper it is.

Didn't Abe Lincoln forcibly shut down dissent ? Yes, he did.

Can you say '"alien sedition act of 1798" ?

"Four dead in Ohio" mean anything to you ?

Highest prison population of any country in the world as a percent of population mean anything to you ?

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

The DNC scandal exposed what Sanders (and I) had been saying all along..I'm someone on the sidelines and could clearly see what was going on with their collusion with media..you'd have to be blind, not looking or simply not care.

This post says you accept the wiki leaks hacks exposing the DNC collusion within the democratic party & media to be accurate,more importantly it speaks of your acknowledging the entire issue of "Russia" to hold no relevance as to credibility of the wiki leaks hacked material.

its only the hacks you find damaging to the cause where you insist foul play,because Russia something or other.

Not care..that brings me to sheeple.

you were saying ............

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

Dude, it wasn't a misdirection. It is a direct statement. As stated earlier, I don't claim there is sufficient evidence for a court of law that Assange is in bed with Russian intelligence. There is plenty of evidence presented to convince me. You, on the other hand rant endlessly about things that have no validity and proven false. By your standards, based on what is easily found on the web, Putin and Trump are co-conspirators to destroy our democracy. I already posted and quoted a citation earlier. If you don't like it then fuck off. That's all I'm going to give. I don't care if you have a memory problem and require reminders every fifteen minutes of what was just said. Go back to sleep gramps.

lol still flailing I see,once again the source of the info is irrelevant weather the hack was done by Russia or some pimple popping computer nerd.

of relevance is weather the hacked info released to the press is true or not,so far you've not presented a single fact to discredit the info yourself,and neither has the DNC or any of its members caught in hundreds of acts of collusion.

as for your " cherry picking evidence " claims,if that's truly the case the DNC could easily show us all where we've been misdirected,by releasing further emails that would put the exposed emails in the proper context u claim they are taken out of,noticeably that has not happened,but we did have a resignation and an assassination to help put things in their "proper" contex,because Russia ya know

 

[Fogdog]

lol still flailing I see,once again the source of the info is irrelevant weather the hack was done by Russia or some pimple popping computer nerd.

of relevance is weather the hacked info released to the press is true or not,so far you've not presented a single fact to discredit the info yourself,and neither has the DNC or any of its members caught in hundreds of acts of collusion.

as for your " cherry picking evidence " claims,if that's truly the case the DNC could easily show us all where we've been misdirected by releasing further emails that would put the exposed emails in the proper context u claim they are taken out of,noticeably that has not happened,but we did have a resignation and an assassination to help put things in their "proper" contex,because Russia ya know

Who's flailing? That last post was unreadable. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Sober up before pressing send gramps.

 

[Fogdog]

After reading this and where it came from it can be all fabricated without any proof what so ever.

SO you guys continue to buy into internet gossip and conspiracy theories if you want too....unfollowing.

I agree that it can all be fabricated. I would think that there is some vein of truth to it, given the sources.

 

[OddBall1st]

Ah, I was waiting for you to ignorantly compare the Russian government's treatment of its citizens to our own. Funny that you criticize Black Lives Matter protests, which is probably the best example of US depredations on it's citizenry. Barring that, what in hell are you talking about?

Two women were sentenced to 2 years of prison for playing protest music at a subway, accused of hooliganism. A protest on the order of a BLM street march would be absolutely trashed by police and military action. There is no free speech in Russia and there is no rule of law to constrain Putin from even taking lives if he deems fit. I'm sure Putin would call you are a useful idiot and you are apologizing for their actions.

We agree about the people of Russia and their beautiful country. But to compare our government with Russia's is pretty ignorant.

Well we are supposed to be as you see it, but we are not. There is all kinds of criminal acts against people or for profit in the US, and Russia... how you categorize them is moot.

We did at one time lead the world in civility.
The big difference is the mix in Cultures/Races. Russia prolly has a more pure bloodline/family tree.

 

[Big_Lou]

We did at one time lead the world in civility.
The big difference is the mix in Cultures/Races. Russia prolly has a more pure bloodline/family tree.

Are you even aware of how racist this statement is? "Pure", eh?

Wow....

 

[OddBall1st]

You are defending the actions of Putin. That's what he did. I can understand why you would want to run away from that.



Edit: two messages where you selectively run away from your beloved Russian dictator's actions? I'm not throwing Putins actions in the Crimea at you, I'm just pointing out that you are defending the dictator that stole land from Ukraine. And I can understand why you would want to run away from that.

He stole it back, as Obama so put it yesterday. He did nothing different than what US lawyers came up with to try and change nations for the US. Russia took the step to a vote. The US usually, no, ......never does that. Russia lost Crimea to the US and Europe, but Putin made sure the Strait was secured. As their leader, the act was well within the country`s best interest. Again something our government wont , .........don`t do.
You can`t cry foul, you have to stop it or watch him win it.

 

[OddBall1st]

Are you even aware of how racist this statement is? "Pure", eh?

Wow....

I don`t give a shit what Big Lou thinks is racist. You got a problem with some people not being some recent mix of race ? Up in the Tundra, same people been living hundreds of years,...When you look for racists too long, you end up connecting everything to it.

Sad way to live.