Police Officer Fired For NOT shooting someone

[bearkat42]

Police Officer Fired over Using Military Training

A man who served four years in the Marines was reportedly fired after putting his military training into effect as a West Virginia police officer, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. The case has illustrated a key difference in military and police use of force protocol.

Earlier this year, Stephen Mader was responding to a domestic incident, when he encountered an armed man. But rather than open fire, he attempted to deescalate the situation — noting that the suspect wasn't pointing the gun at him and had asked the officer to shoot him. Military training had taught him to assess "the whole person" before using deadly force.

"I thought I was going to be able to talk to him and deescalate it," Mader told the Post-Gazette. "I knew it was a suicide-by-cop."

As Mader attempted to calm the man down, two additional officers arrived, and one fatally shot the suspect in the head after he waved his gun, which was unloaded, officers later discovered. After the officers returned to work, however, Mader was placed on administrative leave, investigated, andultimately terminated in June for failing "to eliminate a threat" and thereby putting other officers at risk. The notice of termination also referenced two past misconduct complaints against the officer.

http://www.attn.com/stories/11357/police-officer-fired-over-using-military-training

 

[spandy]

Imagine if the firearm was loaded and someone was killed because of the officers inaction.

Police aren't here to talk down idiots who wave guns around, loaded or not.

 

[srh88]

Imagine if the firearm was loaded and someone was killed because of the officers inaction.

Police aren't here to talk down idiots who wave guns around, loaded or not.

Protect and serve?.. nope shoot the citizens they are supposed to protect. The guy had a bad day and wasn't even pointing the gun at the cop. Someone with far more training then a cop did the right thing.

But of course you cop dick suckers are going to side with the bacon

 

[bearkat42]

Imagine if the firearm was loaded and someone was killed because of the officers inaction.

Police aren't here to talk down idiots who wave guns around, loaded or not.

Now image if he had wings and had a nuke strapped to his chest.

 

[ttystikk]

I think the guy has a lawsuit for wrongful termination.

I also think the department needs to be sued for training its officers to shoot first and use their best judgement later.

Can you say 'fascist policy'?

 

[spandy]

Protect and serve?.. nope shoot the citizens they are supposed to protect. The guy had a bad day and wasn't even pointing the gun at the cop. Someone with far more training then a cop did the right thing.

But of course you cop dick suckers are going to side with the bacon

Now image if he had wings and had a nuke strapped to his chest.

So same situation, cop tries to talk him down and then after a while the suspect opens fire and kills someone you care about.

Still cool to fuck around when people wave guns in the air? Get a clue.

 

[srh88]

So same situation, cop tries to talk him down and then after a while the suspect opens fire and kills someone you care about.

Still cool to fuck around when people wave guns in the air? Get a clue.

lol if he wanted to shoot he would of shot.. do you actually really think the guy got to get off no problem with no charges, and got to keep his gun?

 

[Big_Lou]

 

[bearkat42]

So same situation, cop tries to talk him down and then after a while the suspect opens fire and kills someone you care about.

Still cool to fuck around when people wave guns in the air? Get a clue.

I try not to deal too much with hypotheticals, because you can make those come out any way you'd like them to. In the real world he hadn't shot anyone. But what on earth was that cop thinking? How dare he approach the situation rationally. I guess during their 2 week training at the academy, they just teach you to open fire in every situation

 

[SneekyNinja]

So same situation, cop tries to talk him down and then after a while the suspect opens fire and kills someone you care about.

Still cool to fuck around when people wave guns in the air? Get a clue.

Could've tasered the fuck out of him...

Sad state of affairs when they spend millions of dollars trying to find less than lethal options to use against violent prisoners but gun ordinary people down like animals (with live rounds, obviously).

 

[srh88]

lol if he wanted to shoot he would of shot.. do you actually really think the guy got to get off no problem with no charges, and got to keep his gun?

just watched the video big lou posted..
other cops came in and shot a guy with an unloaded gun that wasnt pointed at anyone who was obviously needing help. sad

 

[SneekyNinja]

just watched the video big lou posted..
other cops came in and shot a guy with an unloaded gun that wasnt pointed at anyone who was obviously needing help. sad

They were sending hugs (at 800fps), obviously.

 

[srh88]

They were sending hugs (at 800fps), obviously.

the two cops who came in were bitches. too scared. i think people that are that cowardly should probably pick a career that doesnt involve carrying around a weapon. they should probably do whatever @spandy does for a living

 

[bearkat42]

Could've tasered the fuck out of him...

Sad state of affairs when they spend millions of dollars trying to find less than lethal options to use against violent prisoners but gun ordinary people down like animals (with live rounds, obviously).

Apparently, those non lethal methods don't work. I picked this quote up from another story I'm reading about a police murder:

"Despite being shot with a stun gun and bean bags, police said Chamberlain continued to come at them and threaten them. When he allegedly charged at one of the officers with the knife, Chamberlain was shot and killed"

In this story the police want me to believe that a 68 year old man charged them after was both shot with bean bags and tasered. They, of course, feared for their safety so they killed him.

So clearly the non lethal methods don't work.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Apparently, those non lethal methods don't work. I picked this quote up from another story I'm reading about a police murder:

"Despite being shot with a stun gun and bean bags, police said Chamberlain continued to come at them and threaten them. When he allegedly charged at one of the officers with the knife, Chamberlain was shot and killed"

In this story the police want me to believe that a 68 year old man charged them after was both shot with bean bags and tasered. They, of course, feared for their safety so they killed him.

So clearly the non lethal methods don't work.

See, what I gleam from that story is they missed several times with the other stuff and fell back to their guns cos they're pussies.

I've seen 6'4" 300lbs MACHINES drop like a sack of shit when hit with those taser-shotgun rounds.

 

[Big_Lou]

just watched the video big lou posted..
other cops came in and shot a guy with an unloaded gun that wasnt pointed at anyone who was obviously needing help. sad

You are looking into a system of savages, 'legal' racial-based barbarism, what else did you expect?

This is the broken system we've got, kiddies - they can do whatEVER the fuck they choose to you and your loved ones and there isn't a whole helluva lot you can do about it and live to tell the tale. These scumbags almost NEVER serve any time nor are they even reprimanded for these dehumanizing atrocities; the 'blue wall of silence' ensures this.
Beasts.....

 

[SneekyNinja]

You are looking into a system of savages, 'legal' racial-based barbarism, what else did you expect?

This is the broken system we've got, kiddies - they can do whatEVER the fuck they choose to you and your loved ones and there isn't a whole helluva lot you can do about it and live to tell the tale. These scumbags almost NEVER serve any time nor are they even reprimanded for these dehumanizing atrocities; the 'blue wall of silence' ensures this.
Beasts.....

It's funny the disconnect some people have.

Killed a person for something...that's OK.

Take my bag of weed? "That fucking pig"

 

[UncleBuck]

the two cops who came in were bitches. too scared. i think people that are that cowardly should probably pick a career that doesnt involve carrying around a weapon. they should probably do whatever @spandy does for a living

run a failing construction business where he has to keep two sets of books to cheat taxes just to keep his head above water?

nah, they'd be better off as ditch diggers.

 

[srh88]

run a failing construction business where he has to keep two sets of books to cheat taxes just to keep his head above water?

nah, they'd be better off as ditch diggers.

well he better figure out what hes doing before he loses the title handyman and gains the title handy's (behind the dumpster at mcdonalds) man

 

[MuyLocoNC]

lol if he wanted to shoot he would of shot.. do you actually really think the guy got to get off no problem with no charges, and got to keep his gun?

The above quote might be the stupidest post ever typed into RIU. Hard to say though, I've had UB on ignore for over a year.

You think cops should risk their lives based on your laughably naive "well, he hasn't shot me yet" theory? Believe it or not, cops aren't paid to be heroes who have to jeopardize their lives to wait and see what he does next. That's so incredibly stupid, it had to come from the mouth of a liberal who would shit himself if he ever found himself in a room with a deranged fuck with a gun.

The first cop should be fired, he put the lives of the other officers at risk and obviously shouldn't be wearing a badge. Anyone wanting to commit suicide by cop, should be granted their wish...with haste.