Does the future of humanity actually matter to you?

sunni

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Would you feel the same way if you didn't have a kid?
Yes the only difference is his life comes to mind first with your question rather than everyone else's
Everyone else's is extremely important and they certainly are whom I think after him but you know maternal bond and all lol
 

Assinmycock99

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Helping others can be profitable AND personally rewarding, there's no rule saying those two must be mutually exclusive. Tends to help with the bills, too.

Yes I'm doing it for myself. I'm doing it to make me feel better about the quality of life I was given by all those faceless forebears, everyone who came before me and worked to make the world a better place.

Today is a spark in the vastness of eternity. Doing good for those who come after me is a way to leave my mark for a longer time than just a day, a week- or a lifetime.

Call it hubris to immortality if you want. I won't get to the future, but something I did could.
Wow you are truly quite an eloquent...
 

thewanderingjack

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Lol I meant like drastic humanity destructions and world ending shit
Not regular stuff :/
But you also couldn't stop it... world war or asteroid or such... you can't even prevent the kind of world ending that would happen if you passed (as my mom did when i was ~12... WORLD ENDING)

But... ust curious... let's say your kid was grown, and was everything you hated about humanity... how would you feel? Wat if they're not awful, but they dumped you in a home and sort of forgot... would you feel a little cheated... after all the love and nurturing...? I guess I'm curious, with parents, how far it goes... mine were sacrificers... literally, worked to death, always helping their kids... didn't get a single thing back... never complained that i saw... me? I neither could nor would want to do it.... in this world, and all tat....
 

ttystikk

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Lol I meant like drastic humanity destructions and world ending shit
Not regular stuff :/
Yeah, I think about that kind of thing too.

I'm working on more sustainable ways to grow food indoors, for reasons just like these.

The first problem to solve in a disaster is survival. Once that's been secured, the next one to solve is lunch, aka long term survival. The ability to create fresh food in a hostile environment is nothing less than security itself.
 

Assinmycock99

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Just because Earth has ended doesnt mean humanity is anchored to the fate of this planet... Im pretty sure humans are the aliens to Earth, we are space nomads.
 

sunni

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But you also couldn't stop it... world war or asteroid or such... you can't even prevent the kind of world ending that would happen if you passed (as my mom did when i was ~12... WORLD ENDING)

But... ust curious... let's say your kid was grown, and was everything you hated about humanity... how would you feel? Wat if they're not awful, but they dumped you in a home and sort of forgot... would you feel a little cheated... after all the love and nurturing...? I guess I'm curious, with parents, how far it goes... mine were sacrificers... literally, worked to death, always helping their kids... didn't get a single thing back... never complained that i saw... me? I neither could nor would want to do it.... in this world, and all tat....
Just because something is out of my control or I can't stop it doesn't mean I want people or anyone or my children to suffer through it

That's not even remotely unhealthy it's just the opposite

I can't answer your other questions my son is 3 months old not even close to any of those all. I can do is hope to be a wonderful mother to him teach him to grow into good moral and ethics and let him live his life
 

bbyb420

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Everything that has ever happened in the history of the universe has led up to THIS POINT, the present. What we do today will be 100% of our tomorrow. The past is the past, and the future does not exist.

If we do not care about our future generations or the longevity of us as a species then what is the point in carrying on another day?
 

thewanderingjack

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if the whole country thought a little more like this... think about it! hello all local foods thus cutting transport costs and air/noise/etc pollution and traffic, not knowing what's in your food... goodbye dependence on foreign goods... good bye wage slaving through life... hello more time outdoors, with the family, being healthy... it's not like we have to go back to the dark ages... we have the means to make all that modern and convenient too... so, wtf "america"?
 

thewanderingjack

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Just because something is out of my control or I can't stop it doesn't mean I want people or anyone or my children to suffer through it

That's not even remotely unhealthy it's just the opposite

I can't answer your other questions my son is 3 months old not even close to any of those all. I can do is hope to be a wonderful mother to him teach him to grow into good moral and ethics and let him live his life
ok but wanting no one to suffer is like saying you want no one to die... that's untenable... literally, will not work.. same with suffering... naturally we sufer, and then we have made a system which works on one person getting less so others can get more... so, you have to both accept and prepare for some level of suffering.

And...

Can't even imagine?
 

ttystikk

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Just because Earth has ended doesnt mean humanity is anchored to the fate of this planet... Im pretty sure humans are the aliens to Earth, we are space nomads.
No, this is home. Our birthplace.

For a very short window of our history, we have the ability to leave this planet and seed ourselves into space.

WE MUST. There's no other choice. In the (not very) long term future, we'll use up the resources available here and then very likely destroy ourselves fighting over what's left.

Getting off this rock for good means handling the problem of lunch on a permanent basis, and for that we need advanced indoor agricultural technology.

It's a big job, but I'm on it. Who's with me?
 

thewanderingjack

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Everything that has ever happened in the history of the universe has led up to THIS POINT, the present. What we do today will be 100% of our tomorrow. The past is the past, and the future does not exist.

If we do not care about our future generations or the longevity of us as a species then what is the point in carrying on another day?
And if a meteor stuck and all humanity was gone? both your efforts and my non efforts would amount to the same... dust, in the wind (c'mon someone do it with me) duuuust in the wiiiiind...
 

sunni

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ok but wanting no one to suffer is like saying you want no one to die... that's untenable... literally, will not work.. same with suffering... naturally we sufer, and then we have made a system which works on one person getting less so others can get more... so, you have to both accept and prepare for some level of suffering.

And...

Can't even imagine?
You're pretty pessimistic aren't you ? Lol
 

bbyb420

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And if a meteor stuck and all humanity was gone? both your efforts and my non efforts would amount to the same... dust, in the wind (c'mon someone do it with me) duuuust in the wiiiiind...
There is no point in "what ifs" if a meteor struck the earth it would be just that, I would not care and neither would you because we would dead. We have to make an effort simply because we MUST. I used to not give a fuck, but my nihilistic attitude quickly dissolved away after a few big life experiences.
 

buzzardbreath

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Yeah, I think about that kind of thing too.

I'm working on more sustainable ways to grow food indoors, for reasons just like these.

The first problem to solve in a disaster is survival. Once that's been secured, the next one to solve is lunch, aka long term survival. The ability to create fresh food in a hostile environment is nothing less than security itself.
"The Road"...still have vivid memories of the movie and how things would probably go down in an apocalyptic setting. Seriously worth a watch if one can stomach the ugly reality. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/
 
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