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[ttystikk]

Sell as in finished medicine???
I'm trying to believe that you have some intention of helping the community. Not just taking and being shown the way and then profiting off ideas of others.

I go back too...
You mean this guy...



There is this thread...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/xxxl-hood-with-cxa3070.858240/#post-11257464
then months later..
https://www.rollitup.org/t/johnson-grow-lights-air-cooled-cxb3590-led-fixture.881017/

Date stamps are awesome.

Sell, as in light fixtures.

What's your point about the date stamps?

Pure and simple, I don't like how you treat others in the industry, therefore I won't help you by giving away everything I've spent years working on. Attitudes have consequences and while I have nothing against what you do, I'm not a big fan of how you try to throw your weight around doing it.

So I'll ask you nicely, just this once; let me be and I'll do the same. I'm too old, nevermind busy, for adolescent tit for tat games on social media sites.

 

[ttystikk]

Any company that is willing to have a demo at the Max Yield Show with 2 broken fans, knows nothing about what makes a quality light. Cooling is number one. In my opinion, almost as important as the LEDs ( in some cases more important).

Agreed, without reservation.

 

[Resinhound]

Sell, as in light fixtures.

What's your point about the date stamps?

Pure and simple, I don't like how you treat others in the industry, therefore I won't help you by giving away everything I've spent years working on. Attitudes have consequences and while I have nothing against what you do, I'm not a big fan of how you try to throw your weight around doing it.

So I'll ask you nicely, just this once; let me be and I'll do the same. I'm too old, nevermind busy, for adolescent tit for tat games on social media sites.

I think his idea from the date stamps is that someone else's idea was taken, copied and commercialized for personal gain with no credit to the original creator.

That's just what I take from his post and examining the links he posted in there . maybe I'm wrong but that's just what I take from it as an observer.

 

[Greengenes707]

Sell, as in light fixtures.

What's your point about the date stamps?

Pure and simple, I don't like how you treat others in the industry, therefore I won't help you by giving away everything I've spent years working on. Attitudes have consequences and while I have nothing against what you do, I'm not a big fan of how you try to throw your weight around doing it.

So I'll ask you nicely, just this once; let me be and I'll do the same. I'm too old, nevermind busy, for adolescent tit for tat games on social media sites.

So to be clear...
You found out about cxb's and the blueprint within the past year. Hyped about them before ever using them. Finally got them...and from day one have been keeping them a "secret" so you can make a company out of it and sell to the community for a profit that showed you things in the first place? And you didn't use led's before?
I hope I am missing something?

 

[ttystikk]

I think his idea from the date stamps is that someone else's idea was taken, copied and commercialized for personal gain with no credit to the original creator.

That's just what I take from his post and examining the links he posted in there . maybe I'm wrong but that's just what I take from it as an observer.

Right. Now show me even ONE idea he's come up with himself, as opposed to taking the work that others have done and profiting by it.

He's throwing shit against the wall while covering himself in it and I won't have anything to do with someone who does that.

 

[ttystikk]

So to be clear...
You found out about cxb's and the blueprint within the past year. Hyped about them before ever using them. Finally got them...and from day one have been keeping them a "secret" so you can make a company out of it and sell to the community for a profit that showed you things in the first place? And you didn't use led's before?
I hope I am missing something?

Now show me even ONE idea you've come up with on your own, as opposed to taking the work that others have done and profiting by it.

In other words, doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing. I fucking hate hypocrites.

You're just throwing shit against the wall while covering yourself in it and I won't have anything to do with someone who does that.

Good day.

 

[a mongo frog]

Right. Now show me even ONE idea he's come up with himself, as opposed to taking the work that others have done and profiting by it.

He's throwing shit against the wall while covering himself in it and I won't have anything to do with someone who does that.

Your a slut for that one whore.

 

[ttystikk]

Your a slut for that one whore.

That's rich, coming from a jew who goes around calling people 'natzis'.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Sell as in finished medicine???
I'm trying to believe that you have some intention of helping the community. Not just taking and being shown the way and then profiting off ideas of others.

I go back too...
You mean this guy...



There is this thread...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/xxxl-hood-with-cxa3070.858240/#post-11257464
then months later..
https://www.rollitup.org/t/johnson-grow-lights-air-cooled-cxb3590-led-fixture.881017/

Date stamps are awesome.

The dude used that as a reflector.... I never saw that thread and my light quite frankly is nothing like that one at all. That light isn't even duct cooled. Don't get this started honestly. Did you invent white light led grow lights? No.... So you used off the shelf parts just like every other led grow light manufacturer but insist that no one else use cobs...... it's just a type of led just like high power mid power and low power so please get off your high horse really.... Tesla didn't make the first electric car but they are the ones refining the art......... competition spurs innovation.



Also let's not forget who you copied..........I have no time to dig but you know what's up!!! I've seen it myself so you where no more first at anything than anyone else. There's some old threads with stardustsailor and others before you ran cobs........

 

[Greengenes707]

Now show me even ONE idea you've come up with on your own, as opposed to taking the work that others have done and profiting by it.

This is my point about just showing up here and "learning" from others so you can go profit. You don't even know what you're talking about.

First 4 cob 36" bars...cause I need the spread, not the cooling, and then showed it all with my par meter and how I came to 36". I originally started at 42". But testing showed 36" was enough. You weren't around, still using HID...

Well I have come to the conclusion that 10mm stars are worthless, specially for what I am trying to do. So I will be getting some circuit boards made for my reds eventually. For now I think it's time to show my beast with just the 4k's going, which may be how it stays for a little...

CXA 4000k AD's 80 cri
4 meanwell hlg185h-c1400b...with pot dimming right now
3 36" 5.8 profiles
3 prolimatech blue vortex14's
1 meanwell apv16-12

Look all the part listed for anyone.

Passive pin sinks are all PLC. I'm glad they are used everywhere now, but that was all original PLC. Robin was onto them and I give him full credit of finding them himself. PLC had a fully manufactured light with them.
Then the train took off once GM/cutter jumped on it.

And what about testing different spectrums opening for all to see fully documented. And show them how to build their own the whole time. And still doing so, even after creating my evil company that apparently to you erases all the work that has and is still laid down for anyone. If it weren't for stepping out of the box, everyone would still be using 3K like you choose 3500K without testing.
That is all just in the recent years with COB's. You can go back much further and watch me test the best pre made fixture in grows, at shows, buying them just to test and return...I've have put so much on the table for anyone to pick up and still do. Don't come at me with that about me just profiting. And my profits are less than anyone, so keep trying to say I'm a hypocrite. I speak up to BS sales because I have nothing to hide.


I test and use everything before recommending it...and specially before putting it into a PLC product.
EDIT:
Forgot the CADs of the 12 cob (3)36" bar fixture pictured above in rough form put into manufacturing in 2014.[/QUOTE]

 

[a mongo frog]

The dude used that as a reflector.... I never saw that thread and my light quite frankly is nothing like that one at all. That light isn't even duct cooled. Don't get this started honestly. Did you invent white light led grow lights? No.... So you used off the shelf parts just like every other led grow light manufacturer but insist that no one else use cobs...... it's just a type of led just like high power mid power and low power so please get off your high horse really.... Tesla didn't make the first electric car but they are the ones refining the art......... competition spurs innovation.



Also let's not forget who you copied..........I have no time to dig but you know what's up!!! I've seen it myself so you where no more first at anything than anyone else. There's some old threads with stardustsailor and others before you ran cobs........

Dude why are you doing this? The truth is so beyond light maker shit. He is and was the first on the reason why we are even on this site. Ill be back in a second. Love you dude. Honest.

 

[ttystikk]

I test and use everything before recommending it...and specially before putting it into a PLC product.

So kindly give me time to do the same.

You're starting shit because you think it's good for marketing your products, so that's disingenuous at best.

The pin heat sinks explanation sounds like talking out of both sides of your mouth.

You're going to call a shorter heat sink an innovation? LMAO, PUH-LEEZE!

Your choice of a lower profit margin doesn't make you a damned bit better than anyone else- just less able to account for costs.

Go pick on someone else, I'm done being a foil for your pathetic excuse for a marketing program.

 

[ttystikk]

Dude why are you doing this? The truth is so beyond light maker shit. He is and was the first on the reason why we are even on this site. Ill be back in a second. Love you dude. Honest.

Da fuk? No he wasn't! You're as wrong on this as you are on most of your posts. You got a dog in this fight? If so, let's see it. If not, butt out with the disinformation campaign, fool!

 

[coreywebster]

. i do want to try making fixture or 2 at higher currents like 1750 or 2100 when and if i can get my hands on some larger pin sinks.

Try this company
http://raye.en.alibaba.com/product/60355080958-802206328/High_bay_led_downllight_60w_aluminum_separate_heat_Sink.html?spm=a2700.7803228.1998738836.888.9hjM2k

The price for the one on that page is $6.9 per unit, lower down they list the available sizes, up to 220mm wide x 100mm height.
I'm not connected to them, just sent some enquiries out and they were one of the better responders.

 

[REALSTYLES]

Hey guys stop fighting I stole the idea of 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 that I've learned from. I'm tired of swinging my dick around you guys should be too. I've been around since July 19, 2010.lets move forward, I did.

 

[weed-whacker]

When I have something to sell, I'll be sure you're the first to see it.

UNTIL I have something to sell, I'll be keeping things close.

EDIT: And maybe I won't show you first. The way you treated Steve of Johnson Grow Lights was pretty fucking unprofessional, to say the least. So maybe you can take your attitude somewhere else.

actually i dont care how green treated anyone, ive been following him for about 3 years and cant even imagine how fed up he must be with the dumb shit ppl post in his thread and the repetative questions without actually wanting to hear the answer, that said he has taken the time to answer my questions with concise and clear help

that said im curios what u mean? u allude to somthing but dont tell the whole story,or r u gonna try and be all enigmatic like what greengene was calling you out on with his comment?

 

[OneHitDone]

Hey guys stop fighting I stole the idea of 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 that I've learned from. I'm tired of swinging my dick around you guys should be too. I've been around since July 19, 2010.lets move forward, I did.

Right, @REALSTYLES is on point here.
Notice of all the led startups spawned from these forums which is the loudest and always confrontational.
REALSTYLES
@Rahz
@robincnn
@Stephenj37826
Always respectful and willing to discuss even if someone is not on the same skill level or just plain disagree

@Greengenes707 - Has contributed a boat load of information useful to the community but always woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something. Looking for any chance to take a shot at someone with a very arrogant condescending attitude.
I for one will not be spending my $ with PLC if the decision should arise to plunge into cob led

 

[Hybridway]

I must interject on this as I've seen GG twist truths & say the dumbest shit about other companies as well as be rude as fuc to growers.
PLC made the Amare SE-350 w/o the chrome reflectors, colored monos to enhance the white (but wants a high CRI), & a UVB bulb. I doubt his has insulated wiring either but I could be wrong. Same driver too all running at 50% power.
And after making the same light as the first company to do so, w/o all the bells n whistles, he tries to say Amare copies him.
And constantly puts Amare down.
Then he uses the same components every other decent white cob light company uses & claims to be the most efficient with the highest quality components.
If I were another company, I'd be nervous to put everything that goes into my light on the web-site just to be safe from PLC copying it.
Then, while being the most efficient light on the market using all the same parts & drive currents as everyone else, still not having not 1 light in his line-up that can yield a pound on its own.
What's the point of making grow lights if you don't even make one that is a 600 watt HPS equivalent???? As an HPS grower, the first thing I learned was not use any light less then a 600 watt HPS s primary lighting!!!!!
Sure, I get it for tent growers but outside of a tent Enviornment, it makes NO sense except for side lighting or supplementary.
So, he doesn't make 1 light that equals a 600 HPS (minimum light requirements for growing pot) & claims to be the best choice for all circumstances.
That lazy, you couldn't put a few 5000k's on a separate switch for veg. I do not recommend vegging under 35k.
Anyways, I just don't like the way you talk about Amare & the way I saw you treat Stephenj as well as talk about other companies. when your light offers sooooooooo much less. Amare's the same price even for the SE-450, which is on sale more often then not!
If I were getting an all white cob light id get a BLONDES or JOHNSON all day over yours. They can yield a pound. They offer at least the minimum light requirement to grow in one fixture.
Amare for me though!
Plus it appears every shill & troll on this forum works for you.

 

[JorgeGonzales]

I am not a smart guy. Just a grower. This is not the Kindve stuff I ever thought about in the depth you guys do. Just an opinion based on the things I've read here.
Peace to all, I'll stick to my journal.

 

[REALSTYLES]

Right, @REALSTYLES is on point here.
Notice of all the led startups spawned from these forums which is the loudest and always confrontational.
REALSTYLES
@Rahz
@robincnn
@Stephenj37826
Always respectful and willing to discuss even if someone is not on the same skill level or just plain disagree

@Greengenes707 - Has contributed a boat load of information useful to the community but always woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something. Looking for any chance to take a shot at someone with a very arrogant condescending attitude.
I for one will not be spending my $ with PLC if the decision should arise to plunge into cob led

I was an asshole on here at onetime. Hit me up on Skype guys and we can talk instead of text and it does group conversations. He gets pissed but he's been nothing but a contribution here and I understand his frustration @Greengenes707 That's why I haven't really started any threads in a while. I'm just seeing what's being posted and post here and there.