ttystikk
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You leave @Grandpapy alone!
Socialist hellhole California moves from 8th to 6th largest economy in the world, surpassing France
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choomer
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It also labels Obama as the most deficit ridden president.
It wasn't my original link, that one was from whitehouse.gov and it doesn't agree w/ the numbers of this site either, but since you won't trust the source you pay for with your taxes and choose instead to like advertisement driven news sites for your info, I thought I'd oblige.
I knew I could get you clicking if I gave you enough encouragement.
We'll try comprehension next.
Oh wait....I see what you're doing.
You're claiming that Shrub was a more effectual president because in 8 years in office he was able to influence the next 4 years afterwards to be -$1T+ deficits and Obummer is less effectual because he couldn't "fix" it in his 8 years.
Oh you sly dog you!
This is why you're so entertaining!
ttystikk
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I like how your reference says 'largest in history', and not merely 'largest in American history'.
We live in historic times. I fear that I'll live long enough to see how it ends.
ttystikk
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So you want to blame Mr Obama for the towering deficits of his predecessor?
How do you manage to make it through the day?
Grandpapy
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To whom it may concern: I have dogs too!
ttystikk
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So do I!
choomer
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Lessee.....Cliton is responsible for 2 years of surplus beyond his presidency and Shrub is responsible for 10+ years of debt beyond that, but Obummer is only responsible for getting deficit spending down to the levels before his presidency for 2 years of his presidency and the last 2 years have it going back up over the previous presidential levels.
We have:
Cliton = 10 years responsibility
Shrub = 10+ years responsibility
Obummer = 4 years responsibility
When all presidents get only 8 years to fudge/fix the country as set by terms limits since FDR, I like the way dems creatively assign blame that extends beyond a presidential reign as well as assigning credit for it too.
UncleBuck
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well, you could have said you were wrong, you blatantly lied, you are a douchebag partisan hack, but you did none of those things.It also labels Obama as the most deficit ridden president.
It wasn't my original link, that one was from whitehouse.gov and it doesn't agree w/ the numbers of this site either, but since you won't trust the source you pay for with your taxes and choose instead to like advertisement driven news sites for your info, I thought I'd oblige.
I knew I could get you clicking if I gave you enough encouragement.
We'll try comprehension next.
Oh wait....I see what you're doing.
You're claiming that Shrub was a more effectual president because in 8 years in office he was able to influence the next 4 years afterwards to be -$1T+ deficits and Obummer is less effectual because he couldn't "fix" it in his 8 years.
Oh you sly dog you!
This is why you're so entertaining!
instead, now you are trying to blame obama for having the audacity to inherit the record deficits of bush, who inherited hillary clinton's surplus.
budgets, both deficits and surpluses, are structural. obama can't just snap his fingers and make the most massive deficit in united states history disappear. to do so would be massively contractionary and counter productive.
you are a douchebag partisan hack, you blatantly lied, and you are wrong. there, i said it for you.
pussy.
UncleBuck
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again, budgets are structural. deficits can't be magically erased overnight. such contractionary policy is something even romney said would be foolish.Lessee.....Cliton is responsible for 2 years of surplus beyond his presidency and Shrub is responsible for 10+ years of debt beyond that, but Obummer is only responsible for getting deficit spending down to the levels before his presidency for 2 years of his presidency and the last 2 years have it going back up over the previous presidential levels.
We have:
Cliton = 10 years responsibility
Shrub = 10+ years responsibility
Obummer = 4 years responsibility
When all presidents get only 8 years to fudge/fix the country as set by terms limits since FDR, I like the way dems creatively assign blame that extends beyond a presidential reign as well as assigning credit for it too.
so when your wet dream of a president leaves obama with the most massive deficit in united states history, it's gonna take him a long time to get it back to zero, which is what bush started with.
well, to be fair he started with a surplus, managed to barely hold onto it for a year, slowly crept into massive deficits, and then just exploded the fucker.
but it's obama driving us toward fiscal insolvency by steadily fixing the mess.
to call you a bag of shit would be an insult to most any bag of shit i've ever seen.
Fogdog
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Stunning how you forget that personal performance is based upon the whole period of their influence and how the country is doing when leaving office. B Clinton in all left the country in great shape wrt budget and debt. Same with Obama. G Bush on the other hand left a hot mess steaming away when he left office.Lessee.....Cliton is responsible for 2 years of surplus beyond his presidency and Shrub is responsible for 10+ years of debt beyond that, but Obummer is only responsible for getting deficit spending down to the levels before his presidency for 2 years of his presidency and the last 2 years have it going back up over the previous presidential levels.
We have:
Cliton = 10 years responsibility
Shrub = 10+ years responsibility
Obummer = 4 years responsibility
When all presidents get only 8 years to fudge/fix the country as set by terms limits since FDR, I like the way dems creatively assign blame that extends beyond a presidential reign as well as assigning credit for it too.
GWB had eight years. His period to create a legacy was 8 years and he fucked up. There is no spin that you can make to change that.
ttystikk
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Please don't imply that Mr Bush somehow accidentally stumbled into a deficit. That motherfucker MEANT every dollar of it.
ttystikk
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Damn straight!
abandonconflict
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Flaming Pie
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Cus Uncle Buck is so full of peace and love. *rolls eyes*I don't think you get it youngun. Ever wonder what it would be like to live off the grid in the grid? Connected while at the same time being disconnected? Yes I am aware of what happened in the past and even more aware of the tragedies that take place daily in the right here right now. Oh wait. That was a Van Halen song with Sammy Hagar frontin.Anyway. What point was I trying to make? Oh yeah. You see. You don't have to aimlessly follow others. Though you do have to share the space of earth with them. You can nod your head in a kind of agreement way. To keep the peace and love and then walk away. Only you allow things in your mind. We're all gonna meet the same fate eventually brother. Do you choose to spend your time dwelling on the past? And things you cannot change? I choose to live in my mind. I see the ugly. But, and especially on weekends, I dwell on the beauty. The peace and love bro. All is good in my world. For now. Damn I gotta go to work tomorrow. Oh wait. I have a 4 day week and 4 day weekend coming up and a 4 day week the following week. That's peace and love bro.
Uncle buck goes into a fight with bricks in his purse.
He learns his tricks from hillary.
UncleBuck
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how many hundreds of lawsuits does trump currently have pending against him?
choomer
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Jesus, and I'm "melting down".
No matter how much it creams your jeans, Hillary has never been pres.
This is just a touch more significant in regards to grasp of reality than the altar/alter thing you wax the jimmy w/.
While you're right about Obummer getting handed a $1.4T deficit, but you're forgetting that $700B of that was for TARP to bail out banks because those banks had been playing fast and loose w/ investments and affiliations/acquisitions due to repealing the Glass-Steagall Legislation enacted in 1933 after such collusion had helped bring about the Great Depression.
9 years after Slick Wille signed the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act into law the 2008 meltdown happened.
Now the intervening 8 years of Shrub presidency had all the opportunity in the world to annul that act, enact tougher oversite to lending institutions, etc. and they didn't do it.
But the fault is shared, if not originated, by Clinton signing it.
That still leaves $700B+ completely and totally Shrub/congress and after 9/11, WMDs, Katrina, etc. comedy of errors we know they are completely responsible for that (quite a few of those same congress critters still effect legislation as of this time).
But opposite to the “structure” you cite, presidents are only affected primarily by their 1st years budget being decided before they are in office.
Presidents sign the budget, they don't make it. They can decline to sign it forcing congress to draft another proposal as they have for countless law proposals they have to sign into law.
If you believe they can't you don't understand the separation of gov't powers.
So Barry is on the hook for 3 years of $1T+ deficits adding to the already (through bi-partisan effort) horrific total.
Deficits are a yearly thing, debt is (has become) forever.....and Barry has racked up the most, period.
BTW, is the “linking to the information you provide” thing something you haven't learned yet?
It's a bit hard to believe w/ 94K posts over 10 years as of May (gotta credit @rollitup sig for that tidbit) you haven't found how handy that can be for someone that wants to form their own opinion.
94000/10=9400/365=25.75 posts a day. More than 1 an hour for 10 years.
...and yet you have a decade+ history of tax paying employment.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You a bridge salesLGBTq?
UncleBuck
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she was president from 1992 until 2000 and handed bush a surplus.
wait a second.
you just had a meltdown telling me not to blame bush for the massive deficit he left to obama, now you are blaming clinton for the republican legislation he signed into law, and which would have been signed into law by bush anyway?
wow. you are a hypocrite beyond all belief.
choomer
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You don't even qualify as Bucky-lite.
Fogdog
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And you have nothing. Do you know that uselessly using long words makes a person seem stupid?
choomer
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Yes, and creative editting or ignoring the rest of the post won't save you.
You say rep. pres. effect the budget long past their tenure (10+ yrs. you agreed to) but dem. pres don't?
You agreed to 10+ yrs. and expanded on it even.
So, are you a paid troll, or a site owner?
Nobody w/ a life racks up that type of post count.
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