I hate this bitch

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
You keep repeating this, and I will keep pointing out how retarded "anarchocapitalism" is. Nobody has discussions with you. You rant about bs and they point out how you are not living in reality. That's not a discussion.
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Translation = Abandon Conflict would prefer not state a consistent position, because in doing so, he might have to defend it.

Actually, most of my rants center on things which aren't b.s., but they do cause a reaction from people and often trigger a kind of cognitive dissonance triggered denial and deflective type response, like the one you just gave.
 
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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
Translation = Abandon Conflict would prefer not to state a consistent position, because in doing so, he might have to defend it.
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I defend every statement I make. You're the one who tries to redefine words to suit your fallacies. Your dystopia is a very well understood line of bullshit and under constant attack. You are the one deflecting by trying to change the subject away from those criticisms.

If you can't handle your bullshit being criticized, maybe don't peddle it so hard.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
I defend every statement I make. You're the one who tries to redefine words to suit your fallacies. Your dystopia is a very well understood line of bullshit and under constant attack. You are the one deflecting by trying to change the subject away from those criticisms.

If you can't handle your bullshit being criticized, maybe don't peddle it so hard.
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As I get older, peddling up hills has gotten harder. Thanks for the advice.

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So, what is property and who can own it ?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
So, what is property and who can own it ?
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You know, when we repeat shit over and over like "you support segregation" and "your free-market BS will result in children being sold to as sexual objects", it is because those are actually well established truths which need to be pointed out regularly. On the other hand, when you repeat this nonsense, I kind of just smh because I have answered it.

Inb4 civil rights are compared to rape.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
You know, when we repeat shit over and over like "you support segregation" and "your free-market BS will result in children being sold to as sexual objects", it is because those are actually well established truths which need to be pointed out regularly. On the other hand, when you repeat this nonsense, I kind of just smh because I have answered it.

Inb4 civil rights are compared to rape.
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Nice diversion, but untrue and misleading.

You've conflated my support for a person to be able to control their justly acquired property with my advocating for the property owners choices as if they would also be my choices.

The basis of "civil" rights is that an external authority has more control over your property and your body than you do. Which of course is a contradiction.

I think people should respect others choices, and human interactions should occur on a mutual basis or not at all.

You, being a fake anarchist, advocate for a central authority over people rather than personal authority being the right of everyone.

The reason we can't continue this discussion in a meaningful way, is because you are afraid to discuss what property is and who can own it.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
No I don't. You do. Property rights come from gov't.
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In a manner of speaking you are correct blind squirrel.

I DO advocate for a central authority in every persons life, that being, the individual person. I do not advocate for a sole central authority, a coercion based government which removes individual authority though.

So, if property rights come from government, are you saying the use and control of at least SOME property is an unnatural thing ?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Actually I stated a fact. You keep repeating this thing about how you're an anarchist because you're a capitalist when in fact capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive.
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Well, we are now at least in a conversation. Good. It appears we could benefit from a common understanding of what the other person believes. Here I'll go first...

I believe in voluntary human interactions, and I also believe each individual should own themselves, but they shouldn't own others. Do you also believe that ?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Actually I stated a fact. You keep repeating this thing about how you're an anarchist because you're a capitalist when in fact capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive.
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I am a proponent of free market voluntary mutual and peaceful trade. How do you think trade should be conducted?


Oh here's some pretty flags for you to look at. A friend of mine used to fly one with black and blue, shoulda asked if the blue was an amalgamation of some of the others colors as he now lives on a Permaculture sort of place and was kind of organic. Plus I got to say "amalgamation" and it's not everyday you can do that.


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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Good question. Please bear with me, I'm sure you will delight in my answer.
In any kind of a comparative, it's always best to be honest and look at what is, versus what could be. So let's begin with what exists now.

In the present, the entity which controls the roads now, has a long history of road piracy and targeting people based on racial profiling. For instance many people here have mentioned that present day cops are known to engage in racist actions, random stops, etc.

One reason they are successful with that is there is very little mechanism to provide feedback which discourages that kind of behavior. Not only do they control the road, they control the system which arbitrates the use of the road and they don't allow other modes of transportation or arbitration to emerge. Would you agree with that ?
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you didn't answer, so i will repeat.

would the owner of that road and other roads be able to prohibit people from driving on them because of their skin color?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
As I get older, peddling up hills has gotten harder. Thanks for the advice.

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So, what is property and who can own it ?
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It's 'pedaling' a bicycle, you're 'peddling', as in trying to sell, a line of totally discredited bullshit.

Answer your own fucking question, there are property law resources everywhere.

Congrats. You just confirmed everything @abandonconflict has said about you.

Stupid.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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“a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also … should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.” ~Murray Rothbard, "leading "free-market" proponent and the guy who coined the term "anarchocapitalism"
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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abandonconflict said:
“a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also … should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.” ~Murray Rothbard, "leading "free-market" proponent and the guy who coined the term "anarchocapitalism"
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Sick fucks run together, eh? That guy is a real piece of something I'll not disgrace the word 'work' to describe.
 
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