Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

Ace Yonder

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I think they should stop getting a fucking thing from us, from transfer payments to spare parts for their F-16s, until and unless they stop abusing their non jewish neighbors and citizens.

If they want to act like a pariah state, then it's time they were treated like one.
So we should abandon one of our staunchest allies in favor of a country run by a straight up terrorist organisation that hates us?
 

Ace Yonder

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You going to keep going to the club with the little guy who keeps getting you involved in fights you have nothing to do with?
If they keep helping me with the fights I get into also, absolutely. Having Mossad on your side makes many many things easier.
 

ChesusRice

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If they keep helping me with the fights I get into also, absolutely. Having Mossad on your side makes many many things easier.
You mean like the Mossad spying on us and stealing intelligence? Or the Mossad running false flag operations? How about the Mossad actively trying to sabotage our diplomatic goals?
 

Ace Yonder

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You mean like the Mossad spying on us and stealing intelligence? Or the Mossad running false flag operations? How about the Mossad actively trying to sabotage our diplomatic goals?
Still infinitely better to have them as an ally than an enemy. Plus, considering the amount of anti-Israeli sentiment in America (oswizzle isn't alone, sadly), can't really blame them for spying IMO.
 

Ace Yonder

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You all seem to think that Hamas would be such a great ally, but it seems like they have different ideas about us.
American Graduate Student [and Veteran] Killed in Stabbing Rampage Near Tel Aviv
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/world/middleeast/jaffa-israel-stabbing-attacks.html?_r=0

"Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah political party posted a statement online praising the attacker as a hero and a "martyr," and suggesting such attacks would continue "so long as Israel does not believe in the two-state solution and ending its occupation.""
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-israel-palestinian-stabbing-attacks-killed-american-taylor-allen-force/

So yeah. I say we keep supporting Israel against a government that praises terrorists who kill American veterans.
 
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ChesusRice

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You all seem to think that Hamas would be such a great ally, but it seems like they have different ideas about us.
American Graduate Student [and Veteran] Killed in Stabbing Rampage Near Tel Aviv
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/world/middleeast/jaffa-israel-stabbing-attacks.html?_r=0

"Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah political party posted a statement online praising the attacker as a hero and a "martyr," and suggesting such attacks would continue "so long as Israel does not believe in the two-state solution and ending its occupation.""
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-israel-palestinian-stabbing-attacks-killed-american-taylor-allen-force/

So yeah. I say we keep supporting Israel against a government that praises terrorists who kill American veterans.
They pulled us into this fight. His blood is on our hands as well.
 

ttystikk

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Still infinitely better to have them as an ally than an enemy. Plus, considering the amount of anti-Israeli sentiment in America (oswizzle isn't alone, sadly), can't really blame them for spying IMO.
Your logic escapes me. They don't do anything for US, just keep demanding we do everything for THEM.

That's not alliance, that's parasitism.
 

ttystikk

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You all seem to think that Hamas would be such a great ally, but it seems like they have different ideas about us.
American Graduate Student [and Veteran] Killed in Stabbing Rampage Near Tel Aviv
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/world/middleeast/jaffa-israel-stabbing-attacks.html?_r=0

"Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah political party posted a statement online praising the attacker as a hero and a "martyr," and suggesting such attacks would continue "so long as Israel does not believe in the two-state solution and ending its occupation.""
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-israel-palestinian-stabbing-attacks-killed-american-taylor-allen-force/

So yeah. I say we keep supporting Israel against a government that praises terrorists who kill American veterans.
...only because they see us actively and continually supporting those who would disenfranchise and kill them with our help.

You've got a bad case of blinders.
 

ChesusRice

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...only because they see us actively and continually supporting those who would disenfranchise and kill them with our help.

You've got a bad case of blinders.
The debate is over. Oswizzle came in and destroyed it with his rabid anti Semitic conspiracy theories
 

ttystikk

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As for how terrible Hamas is, remember that it was Israel who bombed the Palestinian government headquarters.
 

socalcoolmx

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Here's a guy that stole secrets from the united states and is proud of it.

Arnon Milchan, an Israeli-born businessman-turned-filmmaker responsible for the greatest prostitution love story of our time , told prime-time Israeli television on Monday that he was a spy for his country who, among other things, helped boost Israel's fledgling nuclear program

Part of Milchan's duties as a operative was to obtain information to support Israel's defense programs and negotiate arms deals. Shimon Peres, Israel's current president, recruited Milchan to the Bureau of Scientific Relations in the 1960s, The Guardian reports. "The bureau, which worked to obtain scientific and technical information for secret defence programmes, closed down in 1987," the paper adds. One of his feats, he says, was parlaying deals to help support the apartheid regime in South Africa so that it could provide Israel with uranium.

also helped Israel steal nuclear trigger technology from US
 
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