REALSTYLES
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Hey Chuck here is a crusher. I've helped people with their lights, have you? And as for Hydrofarm and Sunlight they don't manufacture the products just put their name on it and I'm the fool? Get a grip on reality
High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out
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Sativied
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Intellect: the capacity for understanding, thinking, and reasoning, as distinct from feeling or wishing.
1.2gpw is very doable with hid. Especially and with DE. Has been done with 400w cheap hps even. Silly bullshitter. Simple matter of spreading it out and run low ppf.
So...again you show your Bibled efficiency numbers mean shit. You might want to look away and close your eyes for a few seconds church
How efficient is your setup according to you (60-ish probably), how efficient is my se magnetic ballast hps according to you (35-19% reflector losses minus wall reflection losses is 25%).... do the bibled math for led, for hps, compare the actual results and you know it's all bullshit. You should be pulling far over 2gpw to back up your nonsense claims, your about a pound short silly.
"Builds led twice as efficient as hps... ...gets 1.2gpw" - Unlucky Brian.
chuck estevez
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they don't make the stuff, THEY JUST SELL THE MOST, AND WAIT FOR IT
HORTICULTURE products.
not garage homemade streetlights
now that is reality,douchebag. post another pic of some money
.what was that like $1500, that's my monthly mortgage.lmk if you want to see what 10 g's in cash looks like.
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chuck estevez
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well, that does it, he helped people with their lights, must mean that LED is superior lighting, makes perfect sense.
if I help 1 person not fall for LED BS, then I have done my job and feel great about it.
Rrog
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@REALSTYLES - Pretty sure the group at large has made their decision. Some here have other agendas, and have developed compulsive behavior not based on data / science. Others like the tech.
Arguing with 2-3 people who clearly argue against science isn't winning anything, unless it's also perhaps entertaining to you.
Arguing with 2-3 people who clearly argue against science isn't winning anything, unless it's also perhaps entertaining to you.
RM3
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I have not bashed the LED camp and I understand the bashing cause I get bashed for usin T5's. But my reason for not bashing is that I have experimented with LED and the results were amazing. Unfortunately I did not finish the experiment I only vegged a plant with the LED didn't flower it. But a 50 watt LED completely blew away a 400 watt CMH in veg
and that 50 watt LED light was 5 feet off the canopy while the 400 was 2 feet off, you see I figured out a long time ago what was missing in the LED camp and tested it (had a convo with @ttystikk last night about this)
this was the light
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and that 50 watt LED light was 5 feet off the canopy while the 400 was 2 feet off, you see I figured out a long time ago what was missing in the LED camp and tested it (had a convo with @ttystikk last night about this)
this was the light
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chuck estevez
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EVERYONE knows LED are great for vegging, even blurples. It is the finished product that matters though and there is NOT 1 person willing to post a finished LED grown Bud, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????
chuck estevez
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people building their lights in their garage compared to a horticulture companies PROVEN product is SCIENCE? LMFAO
chuck estevez
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companies that sell PROVEN grow lights, and can't keep them in stock AND YET, they QUIT selling LED lights. Keep trying
only BWGS sells led and they sell KIND, which even you guys don't like
CannaBruh
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They've been selling and trying to prove LED lights since mid 2000s, hard core btw.
Convincing us that LEDs were = to the HID equiavalent (I'm talking industry folks, you know the distributors that support the hydro shops that stick their name on some asian contract manufacturers equipment and call it hydrofarm or other bullshit)
Nevermind that they don't see the margin in the fact that COBs are very expensive right now... nevermind that their business model is profit driven, not quality cannabis driven.
I think those of us in the latter camp, that have made a move or at least an attempt at seeing what these COBs can do are not so much worried about our name on a light to make some money (well maybe not all of us), but many just want the most efficient, efficacy, quality etc.
Convincing us that LEDs were = to the HID equiavalent (I'm talking industry folks, you know the distributors that support the hydro shops that stick their name on some asian contract manufacturers equipment and call it hydrofarm or other bullshit)
Nevermind that they don't see the margin in the fact that COBs are very expensive right now... nevermind that their business model is profit driven, not quality cannabis driven.
I think those of us in the latter camp, that have made a move or at least an attempt at seeing what these COBs can do are not so much worried about our name on a light to make some money (well maybe not all of us), but many just want the most efficient, efficacy, quality etc.
chuck estevez
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it is so simple to shut me up, just 1 pic of a finished LED grown bud that is top shelf. Come on guys, you can take pic of your rent money, your plant growing, your scissors, but your cameras suddenly break when the bud is finished, what up with that?
chuck estevez
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^^^ you should change your screename to canna HUH?