Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

potroastV2

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I was convicted of a felony for growing pot. I still voted while I was on felony probation, and the pigs took my two pistols, which were not registered. I told the judge that the pistols are heirlooms, and I wanted them back. So he told the pigs to hold them until my probation was over and return them to me. Then I registered my pistols even though I am a felon.

What do you know, a felon who can vote, and own guns.

I live in California.

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CrocodileStunter

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I was convicted of a felony for growing pot. I still voted while I was on felony probation, and the pigs took my two pistols, which were not registered. I told the judge that the pistols are heirlooms, and I wanted them back. So he told the pigs to hold them until my probation was over and return them to me. Then I registered my pistols even though I am a felon.

What do you know, a felon who can vote, and own guns.

I live in California.

:mrgreen:
Gangsta!!!
 

Kasuti

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I have a theory on this. They purposely cut out around 10% of the vote. They cut out the vote of the people who aren't exactly the most obedient members of society. The true "independents" if you will. I feel our members of Govt have a fragile little ego and get soo damn rustled at the thought of someone ignoring them. They hate that some people can live and thrive independently so they will always try to lock it down. I know some people need to be there but I feel large amount of our felon population are not at all bad people. There are a lot of people in there just for making money to survive. Even some of the violent offenders are good people there are circumstances that the courts don't know a damn thing about and there is a different code in the underground that the courts just don't know or give a fuck about.
I agree. there are a lot of people in prison who need to be there the rest of their lives, but there are also a lot of people who made a bad choice at one point or another and it landed them in jail even if in all other aspects of their lives they were good citizens. now they have no say in the direction of the govt who is supposed to represent them, and they are branded criminals the rest of their lives.
 

Kasuti

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I was convicted of a felony for growing pot. I still voted while I was on felony probation, and the pigs took my two pistols, which were not registered. I told the judge that the pistols are heirlooms, and I wanted them back. So he told the pigs to hold them until my probation was over and return them to me. Then I registered my pistols even though I am a felon.

What do you know, a felon who can vote, and own guns.

I live in California.

:mrgreen:
We're you able to register under your own name or did u have to use a different name?
 

ChesusRice

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We're you able to register under your own name or did u have to use a different name?
He didn't register them under his own name. It is against Federal law for a Felon to possess firearms. If he used his own name and his story is true. Then it is an oversight by the state that can be corrected at any time
 

ChesusRice

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Know what you never see in the news from BEFORE the film of Palestinian kids throwing stones at Israeli military check points and they end up shooting one?

This is how it goes daily. The Israeli Army people begin the day by calling cultural based and religious based insults over loud speakers at the Palestinian's in the "camps"......Adult Palestinian's are used to it and "ignore" the shit tossed at them. The children, being children I guess, are not as tough skinned and begin to yell some back at the Israeli military personnel.
They say even more insulting things back to the Palestinian's. Till, at some point, the kids start throwing rocks and bottles. Out come the guns as this is a "threat to the security" of the Israeli military "guards". Sure as shit some kid with a good arm, gets one through the gun ports of the bunker and hits an Israeli military person. The shooting starts and the kid is shot (The part you saw on the news).

I see this and just don't "get it".....The amount of "hate" over there, emanating from both sides is deadly for each in the end (Almost like the hate between political parties here - with out the gunfire,,,yet)...I've been told that this is done on purpose by some to kill in vengeance for lost relatives. And by others for "sport"...based on their bigoted hate!
I do NOT subscribe to this! BARBARIC ! Are we becoming the Nazi's of our past?

The military units used for this are mostly "home guard" units. These consist of people filling out their mandatory rotational service fulfilment that each citizen "owes" on a rotating time basis. (Must do 2 active straight directly in the Army and are recalled for local and regional guard assignments like our National Guard from time to time) Every home contains a Full on military select fire weapon and this is your "service" weapon. Lots of Galils and M-16's and I'm beginning to see more Tavor TAR-21's coming home now too.

How do I know these things? I have family over there! Between the Polish and the Russian in us. You would think there would be a Jew in the woodpile somewhere eh? The wife and I are pretty watered down..... I have a brother, and she a cousin, who became active and are devout practitioners. They have emigrated to Israel and became citizens...

Here's an interesting note..Due to their service in active combat. They each have Government prescriptions for PTSD and other service related issues for . . . drum roll . . . Medical marijuana! Yup the government simply issued them by a simple request and a minor Dr.s office visit! They fill them monthly!
The research being done over there in MM is world leading!

@ttystikk

In the long run I agree after seeing this and hearing of other goings on from our relatives! I'm appalled and voice my displeasure of the goings on every time I'm there to visit!
Glad you said "Israel" and not "Jews" as most of us with the blood aren't like that.....(1/8th and 1/4 respectively - non practicing)
No Problems with Jews at all
Israel?
FUCK ISRAEL
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Know what you never see in the news from BEFORE the film of Palestinian kids throwing stones at Israeli military check points and they end up shooting one?

This is how it goes daily. The Israeli Army people begin the day by calling cultural based and religious based insults over loud speakers at the Palestinian's in the "camps"......Adult Palestinian's are used to it and "ignore" the shit tossed at them. The children, being children I guess, are not as tough skinned and begin to yell some back at the Israeli military personnel.
They say even more insulting things back to the Palestinian's. Till, at some point, the kids start throwing rocks and bottles. Out come the guns as this is a "threat to the security" of the Israeli military "guards". Sure as shit some kid with a good arm, gets one through the gun ports of the bunker and hits an Israeli military person. The shooting starts and the kid is shot (The part you saw on the news).

I see this and just don't "get it".....The amount of "hate" over there, emanating from both sides is deadly for each in the end (Almost like the hate between political parties here - with out the gunfire,,,yet)...I've been told that this is done on purpose by some to kill in vengeance for lost relatives. And by others for "sport"...based on their bigoted hate!
I do NOT subscribe to this! BARBARIC ! Are we becoming the Nazi's of our past?

The military units used for this are mostly "home guard" units. These consist of people filling out their mandatory rotational service fulfilment that each citizen "owes" on a rotating time basis. (Must do 2 active straight directly in the Army and are recalled for local and regional guard assignments like our National Guard from time to time) Every home contains a Full on military select fire weapon and this is your "service" weapon. Lots of Galils and M-16's and I'm beginning to see more Tavor TAR-21's coming home now too.

How do I know these things? I have family over there! Between the Polish and the Russian in us. You would think there would be a Jew in the woodpile somewhere eh? The wife and I are pretty watered down..... I have a brother, and she a cousin, who became active and are devout practitioners. They have emigrated to Israel and became citizens...

Here's an interesting note..Due to their service in active combat. They each have Government prescriptions for PTSD and other service related issues for . . . drum roll . . . Medical marijuana! Yup the government simply issued them by a simple request and a minor Dr.s office visit! They fill them monthly!
The research being done over there in MM is world leading!

@ttystikk

In the long run I agree after seeing this and hearing of other goings on from our relatives! I'm appalled and voice my displeasure of the goings on every time I'm there to visit!
Glad you said "Israel" and not "Jews" as most of us with the blood aren't like that.....(1/8th and 1/4 respectively - non practicing)
Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective!

I'm not at all Jewish, so far as I am aware- makes no difference; Jewish people are, just like those who practice other faiths or none at all, by and large good, decent people with the occasional bad apple... because we're all human.

Israel the nation is rightly becoming a pariah state because of what they do in the name of their state religion. It's no different than ISIL, and I'd really like to see a comparative body count.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
But seriously, our guns laws are the result of NRA pressure on politicians to "get tough on crime" -- without passing common sense laws requiring guns to be registered.
It is nothing more than political masturbation.
Oh no, it's more than that; that's the spooge of mass incarceration running down their legs.
 

ChesusRice

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Sorry Man, I think it's spelled splooge. :lol:

:mrgreen:
PENAL CODE
SECTION 29800-29830




29800. (a) (1) Any person who has been convicted of a felony under
the laws of the United States, the State of California, or any other
state, government, or country, or of an offense enumerated in
subdivision (a), (b), or (d) of Section 23515, or who is addicted to
the use of any narcotic drug, and who owns, purchases, receives, or
has in possession or under custody or control any firearm is guilty
of a felony.
(2) Any person who has two or more convictions for violating
paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 417 and who owns,
purchases, receives, or has in possession or under custody or control
any firearm is guilty of a felony.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), any person who has been
convicted of a felony or of an offense enumerated in Section 23515,
when that conviction results from certification by the juvenile court
for prosecution as an adult in an adult court under Section 707 of
the Welfare and Institutions Code, and who owns or has in possession
or under custody or control any firearm is guilty of a felony.
(c) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to a person who has been
convicted of a felony under the laws of the United States unless
either of the following criteria is satisfied:
(1) Conviction of a like offense under California law can only
result in imposition of felony punishment.
(2) The defendant was sentenced to a federal correctional facility
for more than 30 days, or received a fine of more than one thousand
dollars ($1,000), or received both punishments.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=29001-30000&file=29800-29830
 
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ChesusRice

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Sorry Man, I think it's spelled splooge. :lol:

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29805. Except as provided in Section 29855 or subdivision (a) of
Section 29800, any person who has been convicted of a misdemeanor
violation of Section 71, 76, 136.1, 136.5, or 140, subdivision (d) of
Section 148, Section 171b, paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of
Section 171c, 171d, 186.28, 240, 241, 242, 243, 243.4, 244.5, 245,
245.5, 246.3, 247, 273.5, 273.6, 417, 417.6, 422, 626.9, 646.9, or
830.95, subdivision (a) of former Section 12100, as that section read
at any time from when it was enacted by Section 3 of Chapter 1386 of
the Statutes of 1988 to when it was repealed by Section 18 of
Chapter 23 of the Statutes of 1994, Section 17500, 17510, 25300,
25800, 30315, or 32625, subdivision (b) or (d) of Section 26100, or
Section 27510, or Section 8100, 8101, or 8103 of the Welfare and
Institutions Code, any firearm-related offense pursuant to Sections
871.5 and 1001.5 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, or of the
conduct punished in subdivision (c) of Section 27590, and who, within
10 years of the conviction, owns, purchases, receives, or has in
possession or under custody or control, any firearm is guilty of a
public offense, which shall be punishable by imprisonment in a county
jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison, by a fine not
exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment
and fine. The court, on forms prescribed by the Department of
Justice, shall notify the department of persons subject to this
section. However, the prohibition in this section may be reduced,
eliminated, or conditioned as provided in Section 29855 or 29860.



29810. (a) For any person who is subject to Section 29800 or 29805,
the court shall, at the time judgment is imposed, provide on a form
supplied by the Department of Justice, a notice to the defendant
prohibited by this chapter from owning, purchasing, receiving,
possessing, or having under custody or control, any firearm. The
notice shall inform the defendant of the prohibition regarding
firearms and include a form to facilitate the transfer of firearms.
If the prohibition on owning or possessing a firearm will expire on a
date specified in the court order, the form shall inform the
defendant that he or she may elect to have his or her firearm
transferred to a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Section 29830.
(b) Failure to provide the notice described in subdivision (a) is
not a defense to a violation of this chapter.



29815. (a) Any person who, as an express condition of probation, is
prohibited or restricted from owning, possessing, controlling,
receiving, or purchasing a firearm and who owns, purchases, receives,
or has in possession or under custody or control, any firearm, but
who is not subject to Section 29805 or subdivision (a) of Section
29800, is guilty of a public offense, which shall be punishable by
imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state
prison, by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that imprisonment and fine.
(b) The court, on forms provided by the Department of Justice,
shall notify the department of persons subject to this section. The
notice shall include a copy of the order of probation and a copy of
any minute order or abstract reflecting the order and conditions of
probation.


29820. (a) This section applies to any person who satisfies both of
the following requirements:
(1) The person is alleged to have committed an offense listed in
subdivision (b) of Section 707 of the Welfare and Institutions Code,
an offense described in subdivision (b) of Section 1203.073, any
offense enumerated in Section 29805, or any offense described in
Section 25850, subdivision (a) of Section 25400, or subdivision (a)
of Section 26100.
(2) The person is subsequently adjudged a ward of the juvenile
court within the meaning of Section 602 of the Welfare and
Institutions Code because the person committed an offense listed in
subdivision (b) of Section 707 of the Welfare and Institutions Code,
an offense described in subdivision (b) of Section 1203.073, any
offense enumerated in Section 29805, or any offense described in
Section 25850, subdivision (a) of Section 25400, or subdivision (a)
of Section 26100.
(b) Any person described in subdivision (a) shall not own, or have
in possession or under custody or control, any firearm until the age
of 30 years.
(c) A violation of this section shall be punishable by
imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state
prison, by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that imprisonment and fine.
(d) The juvenile court, on forms prescribed by the Department of
Justice, shall notify the department of persons subject to this
section. Notwithstanding any other law, the forms required to be
submitted to the department pursuant to this section may be used to
determine eligibility to acquire a firearm.



29825. (a) Every person who purchases or receives, or attempts to
purchase or receive, a firearm knowing that the person is prohibited
from doing so by a temporary restraining order or injunction issued
pursuant to Section 527.6, 527.8, or 527.85 of the Code of Civil
Procedure, a protective order as defined in Section 6218 of the
Family Code, a protective order issued pursuant to Section 136.2 or
646.91 of this code, or a protective order issued pursuant to Section
15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, is guilty of a public
offense, which shall be punishable by imprisonment in a county jail
not exceeding one year or in the state prison, by a fine not
exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment
and fine.
(b) Every person who owns or possesses a firearm knowing that the
person is prohibited from doing so by a temporary restraining order
or injunction issued pursuant to Section 527.6, 527.8, or 527.85 of
the Code of Civil Procedure, a protective order as defined in Section
6218 of the Family Code, a protective order issued pursuant to
Section 136.2 or 646.91 of this code, or a protective order issued
pursuant to Section 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, is
guilty of a public offense, which shall be punishable by
imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, by a fine not
exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment
and fine.
(c) If probation is granted upon conviction of a violation of this
section, the court shall impose probation consistent with Section
1203.097.
(d) The Judicial Council shall provide notice on all protective
orders that the respondent is prohibited from owning, possessing,
purchasing, receiving, or attempting to purchase or receive a firearm
while the protective order is in effect. The order shall also state
that a firearm owned or possessed by the person shall be relinquished
to the local law enforcement agency for that jurisdiction, sold to a
licensed firearms dealer, or transferred to a licensed firearms
dealer pursuant to Section 29830 for the duration of the period that
the protective order is in effect, and that proof of surrender or
sale shall be filed within a specified time of receipt of the order.
The order shall state the penalties for a violation of the
prohibition. The order shall also state on its face the expiration
date for relinquishment.



29830. (a) Any person who is prohibited from owning or possessing a
firearm or ammunition pursuant to this article, or who is prohibited
from owning or possessing a firearm or ammunition pursuant to any
other law, may transfer or cause to be transferred, any firearm or
firearms or ammunition in his or her possession, or of which he or
she is the owner, to a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Section
26700 to 26915, inclusive, for storage during the duration of the
prohibition, if the prohibition on owning or possessing the firearm
will expire on a date specified in the court order.
(b) A firearms dealer who stores a firearm or firearms or
ammunition pursuant to subdivision (a), may charge the owner a
reasonable fee for the storage of the firearm or firearms or
ammunition.
(c) A firearms dealer who stores a firearm or firearms or
ammunition pursuant to subdivision (a) shall notify the Department of
Justice of the date that the firearms dealer has taken possession of
the firearm or firearms or ammunition.
(d) Any firearm that is returned by a dealer to the owner of the
firearm pursuant to this section shall be returned in accordance with
the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing
with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of
Chapter 2 of Division 6.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=29001-30000&file=29800-29830
 
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ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I've never understood this law either. I am a convicted felon also,( not for growing weed) I served my time,payed my fines and have stayed out of trouble for 15years and still have no say in my local govt when election day rolls around. The govt still wants my money, but doesn't think I should have a say in how it is spent. That doesn't seem to make any sense whatsoever.
So file a lawsuit. If they say you don't have standing to sue, go vote.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

FELON VOTING PROHIBITIONS ARE VOTER SUPPRESSION, PURE AND SIMPLE.

That prosecutor won't touch you with a ten foot summons.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I have a theory on this. They purposely cut out around 10% of the vote. They cut out the vote of the people who aren't exactly the most obedient members of society. The true "independents" if you will. I feel our members of Govt have a fragile little ego and get soo damn rustled at the thought of someone ignoring them. They hate that some people can live and thrive independently so they will always try to lock it down. I know some people need to be there but I feel large amount of our felon population are not at all bad people. There are a lot of people in there just for making money to survive. Even some of the violent offenders are good people there are circumstances that the courts don't know a damn thing about and there is a different code in the underground that the courts just don't know or give a fuck about.
Straight up voter suppression.
 

UncleBuck

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Why do u talk about penises all the time? I'm starting to think u have some latent tendencies that should be addressed on another website or by visiting a psychiatrist.
hundreds of comments and thoughts expressed in this thread, and the white supremacist loser is oddly compelled to remark on the one about how @bluntmassa1 's penis is between 3-4 inches while erect.
 

CrocodileStunter

Well-Known Member
haha uncle buck is funny he makes penis jokes and talks about butt stuff. I love how he'll follow around someone he has decided is racist but will also make derogatory queer remarks as insults. How many more ways can you let us know you're into the cuckhold lifestyle?
 

UncleBuck

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haha uncle buck is funny he makes penis jokes and talks about butt stuff. I love how he'll follow around someone he has decided is racist but will also make derogatory queer remarks as insults. How many more ways can you let us know you're into the cuckhold lifestyle?
there is nothing wrong with kasuti if he enjoyed anal sex. he should be accepted for who he is, no matter what sexual orientation he was born with.
 
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