Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

bravedave

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They're DEFINITELY being purchased with your tax dollars, then given- that's right, GIVEN- to the Israeli government to use to hunt and kill Palestinian civilians, along with any and all other Arabs who might be dissenters.

And then they cry about being holocaust victims on prime time TV back here in 'Murica.

Makes me want to :spew:
You make me want to do the same thing. Such an ignorant putz.

Didn't this happen during a stretch where dozens of innocent Israelis were being killed via stabbing? And maybe an American or two was killed too?

You and yours castigate Faux News but then use Aljazeera as your source. o_O :finger:
 

ttystikk

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You make me want to do the same thing. Such an ignorant putz.

Didn't this happen during a stretch where dozens of innocent Israelis were being killed via stabbing? And maybe an American or two was killed too?

You and yours castigate Faux News but then use Aljazeera as your source. o_O :finger:
Yes. The difference is that Al Jazeera reports these things called verifiable facts, while the shit you spew has no credibility whatsoever.
 

bluntmassa1

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No, we haven't 'always' been involved in pointless wars; only since the rise of the Defense Industrial Complex, after WWII.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is in direct violation of a mutual non aggression treaty they signed with Ukraine, Great Britain and US. Frankly, I don't think we've gone nearly far enough to swat down Putin's murderous adventurism.
It's hippocratical to go after Russia for doing pretty much the same thing as Israel meanwhile paying Israel. I also don't see a tiny sliver of land being a good reason for a nuclear war even though I think I would be safeish during a nuclear war I still would like to bring my kid to the Boston aquarium. Lol

The Ukraine just is not a good reason for a nuclear winter IMHO.
 

ttystikk

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It's hippocratical to go after Russia for doing pretty much the same thing as Israel meanwhile paying Israel. I also don't see a tiny sliver of land being a good reason for a nuclear war even though I think I would be safeish during a nuclear war I still would like to bring my kid to the Boston aquarium. Lol

The Ukraine just is not a good reason for a nuclear winter IMHO.
Putin wouldn't throw nukes over Ukraine, quit with the fear mongering.

Agreed about Israel bring just as bad-actually worse- but that's not justification. Or an excuse.
 

bluntmassa1

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Putin wouldn't throw nukes over Ukraine, quit with the fear mongering.

Agreed about Israel bring just as bad-actually worse- but that's not justification. Or an excuse.
You said we haven't done enough, we put sanction's on them only thing more we could do is start a war then nukes will be used more than likely.
 

ttystikk

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You said we haven't done enough, we put sanction's on them only thing more we could do is start a war then nukes will be used more than likely.
Ye of little faith. We have stealth predator drones. We could have pounded every armored vehicle crossing the border with TOW anti tank missiles, then claimed that the Ukrainians were just very good at hitting tanks that seem to be lost on the wrong side of the border.

And the reason why we should have? 'Credibility'. Something this country has in rather short supply anymore in foreign policy matters.
 

bravedave

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Yes. The difference is that Al Jazeera reports these things called verifiable facts, while the shit you spew has no credibility whatsoever.
First name something I have posted that was not true, you ignorant, lying, putz...while here I was pointing out facts you and Al Jazeera both conveniently omitted. Mr. Credible.
 

bravedave

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Yes. The difference is that Al Jazeera reports these things called verifiable facts, while the shit you spew has no credibility whatsoever.
ABC news, credible source?

"This incident came amid nearly 7 months of violence in which Palestinians have killed 28 Israelis and 2 Americans in stabbings, shootings, and car rammings in the West Bank and Israel."
 

Bud Assasin

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And who do you think spends millions to lobby our government to keep selling their toys for killing Palestinians?

So how does that make anything I said one iota less valid?
Wasn't trying to argue with you, just saying that military arms manufacturers may not sell or export military weaponry without express permission by the DOD.
That is why Iran can't buy Centrifuges.

It is extremely difficult even for civilians to import US military surplus, most of it is destroyed or re purposed.
 

Bud Assasin

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Under govt. funded contracts. I'm pretty sure it's sold by the govt. thru boeing, they are just the manufacturer. I don't think anyone can just go buy an Apache off boeing. You really think Boeing can just sell weapons without the Govts. permission. .lol. oh and its probablybeing purchased with American money.
Half of that is the exact point I was trying to make, it should be obvious to anyone who isn't a retard that Boeing or any other Arms manufacturer will almost always have a contract with there own government to produce arms for their own country. I was just pointing out that even though it may appear that the US and Israel have the same helicopters that it doesn't automatically mean that the the government sold the helicopters. They may have approved the export but we will never know for obvious reasons.

I also see a lot of American cars in Israel did the American government sell them those as well? or was it a conspiracy to put Palestinian car makers out of business.
 

Bud Assasin

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So how does that make anything I said one iota less valid?
It makes what your said slightly less valid because you make sweeping assumptions that the American government is in the business of selling helicopters and eluding to the fact by siting the star of David appearing on a Apache. It may be the case but you will never have the evidence to prove any of it. You will only be a source of conjecture.
 

Bud Assasin

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No, we haven't 'always' been involved in pointless wars; only since the rise of the Defense Industrial Complex, after WWII.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is in direct violation of a mutual non aggression treaty they signed with Ukraine, Great Britain and US. Frankly, I don't think we've gone nearly far enough to swat down Putin's murderous adventurism.
What about the Civil war?
Spanish American War of 1898?
War of 1812?
Then there is the USMC incursions into Honduras, Haiti, Nicaragua, Panama, and just about the rest of "Latin America" during the first third of the 20th century.
Semper Fi USMC 1966 - 1971
The Vietnam war was really pointless to right?

In light of the evidence I would have to say you have some history to study. Never mind me being ignorant LMAO!!! Like the pot calling the kettle black up in here BAW HA HA HA !!!
 
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