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I don't see that happening. Most Sanders supporters are smart enough to know handing the GOP the white house and effectively the supreme court while they control congress would be a catastrophe for the country

That simply won't happen
Nope. Hillary is a weak candidate. She can barely keep her numbers up against a complete nutjob, who's only talent his entire life has been talking about how great socialism is.
 

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Trump v. Clinton
Trump v. Sanders

Why do social democracies perform better than crony-capitalistic ones by every metric?
A socialist Democracy is not how America became to be the most successful, powerful nation in the world. It is what's destroying it though. When it does work, it's either a small country with few immigration problems, or it eventually fails due to running out of other people's money. When the powerful are in charge of the money, the powerful become corrupt. I believe in limited government, with limited authority.
 
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Padawanbater2

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A socialist Democracy is not how America became to be the most successful, powerful nation in the world. It is what's destroying it though. When it does work, it's either a small country with few immigration problems, or it eventually fails due to running out of other people's money. When the powerful are in charge of the money, the powerful become corrupt. I believe in limited government, with limited authority.
What you are saying here is contradictory to what you say you support, even in this very thread

Are you aware of how much Trump's policies will expand the federal government? Or how his tax plan affects middle/lower class people? Has Trump said he want's to end the war on drugs? That would be consistent with a smaller federal government, but as far as I'm aware, the GOP platform has been a "tough on crime, tough on drugs" stance since the good ole "Just Say No!" days.. Does Trump support the individual freedom to marry? A woman's right to choose? Has he learned yet that he can't just "Shut down the bad parts of the internet" he doesn't like? Or ban entire groups of people from entering into the country based on their religion? Or build giant walls to keep people out?

I mean, if you ask me, all of that sounds pretty authoritarian/fascist, so why would a guy like you, who says he supports "limited government with limited authority" support a guy like Donald Trump for president?
 

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What you are saying here is contradictory to what you say you support, even in this very thread

Are you aware of how much Trump's policies will expand the federal government? Or how his tax plan affects middle/lower class people? Has Trump said he want's to end the war on drugs? That would be consistent with a smaller federal government, but as far as I'm aware, the GOP platform has been a "tough on crime, tough on drugs" stance since the good ole "Just Say No!" days.. Does Trump support the individual freedom to marry? A woman's right to choose? Has he learned yet that he can't just "Shut down the bad parts of the internet" he doesn't like? Or ban entire groups of people from entering into the country based on their religion? Or build giant walls to keep people out?

I mean, if you ask me, all of that sounds pretty authoritarian/fascist, so why would a guy like you, who says he supports "limited government with limited authority" support a guy like Donald Trump for president?
So because Trump wants less interference on Marijuana laws, that makes him authoritarian/fascist?
Trump will be making cuts in goverment, with huge spending cuts, and tax cuts. A lot of cuts. Overhaul the EPA and DOE. Get rid of common core, etc
 

Padawanbater2

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So because Trump wants less interference on Marijuana laws, that makes him authoritarian/fascist?
Trump will be making cuts in goverment, with huge spending cuts, and tax cuts. A lot of cuts. Overhaul the EPA and DOE. Get rid of common core, etc
How will he accomplish any of the things he says he will during the campaign trail and debates if he plans on cutting taxes? If he plans to do half what he says he does, he will undoubtedly have to raise taxes. That is expansion of the federal government, not reduction. If he doesn't raise taxes, he will increase the deficit/debt, which is again, contradictory to being fiscally conservative

What's his stance on ISIS? I'm sure he want's to get more involved in that too, right? That's even more money we'll have to find somewhere, so where's that going to come from?

Are you sure you support him for his policy proposals and not just his bravado/demeanour?
 

bearkat42

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How will he accomplish any of the things he says he will during the campaign trail and debates if he plans on cutting taxes? If he plans to do half what he says he does, he will undoubtedly have to raise taxes. That is expansion of the federal government, not reduction. If he doesn't raise taxes, he will increase the deficit/debt, which is again, contradictory to being fiscally conservative

What's his stance on ISIS? I'm sure he want's to get more involved in that too, right? That's even more money we'll have to find somewhere, so where's that going to come from?

Are you sure you support him for his policy proposals and not just his bravado/demeanour?
He can't answer those questions because Trump has never answered those questions. That's why all of the Trump rhetoric in here is just fanboi bullshit.
 

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How will he accomplish any of the things he says he will during the campaign trail and debates if he plans on cutting taxes? If he plans to do half what he says he does, he will undoubtedly have to raise taxes. That is expansion of the federal government, not reduction. If he doesn't raise taxes, he will increase the deficit/debt, which is again, contradictory to being fiscally conservative

What's his stance on ISIS? I'm sure he want's to get more involved in that too, right? That's even more money we'll have to find somewhere, so where's that going to come from?

Are you sure you support him for his policy proposals and not just his bravado/demeanour?
Its not always about how much money a government can suck out of the economy, that determines if its successful.
It's how smart they spend the money that their given. Look at Afghanistan, it's a money pit right now. Obama should have had that over with five years ago. He can't fix it. Socialists suck at fixing shit.

Reduce the budget, shrink the goverment, roll back regulations, lower taxes which will increase tax revenue, due to economic growth, and more people working. Instead of exporting jobs, we will be exporting goods made in America.
Does Bernie know how to negotiate trade? I doubt it.
 

Padawanbater2

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Its not always about how much money a government can suck out of the economy, that determines if its successful.
It's how smart they spend the money that their given. Look at Afghanistan, it's a money pit right now. Obama should have had that over with five years ago. He can't fix it. Socialists suck at fixing shit.

Reduce the budget, shrink the goverment, roll back regulations, lower taxes which will increase tax revenue, due to economic growth, and more people working. Instead of exporting jobs, we will be exporting goods made in America.
Does Bernie know how to negotiate trade? I doubt it.
You don't even know the dude's policies who you claim to support

This is the state of our political process in America ladies and gentlemen..
 

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Even if the United States paid every penny for the wall, and Mexico nothing.
The savings we would keep not having to deal with as many immigration problems,
would pay for the wall ten times over. Easily
 

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You don't even know the dude's policies who you claim to support

This is the state of our political process in America ladies and gentlemen..
Which successful country in the history of the world, doesn't spend money on national security?
That is the most primary obligation the president has
 
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