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David Pasta

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TimoteoPT, 2xVero 29 3500K,2x Vero18 3000K,2x driver,4x optic ,aluminium,2xArctic Alpine =300-350 EUR
 
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heheheh

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:leaf:Welcome to RIU:weed:
1.start 3 plants then cull the weakiest plant.
2.3070 & vero will get job done.
3. DIY COB light =

thanks man :weed:

as far as premade fixtures which one would u recommed? optic? tasty? johnson?

i've only emailed the optic guys and they recommended the 200w vero29. i though the 120w seemed ok for my space (says it covers 36"x24" at 16" height)... vero 18 cobs though, big difference?
 

TimoteoPT

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TimoteoPT, 2xVero 29 3500K,2x Vero18 3000K,2x driver,4x optic ,aluminium,2xArctic Alpine =300-350 EUR
I just wish i understand anythin about DIY.. i've seen a couple of videos but it sounds chinese... Thank you!

Is VIPAR a good brand? i am looking at their VIPAR B2X2 48X5 LED Grow Light
  • LED Type: 5W
  • LED Brand: Bridgelux & EpiLED
  • LED Colours: Blue @ 440nm & 460nm, Red @ 630nm & 660nm, White @ 3500k & 9000k
and 2 of them seems a good option. Any feedback on these?
 
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testiclees

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/vipar-led-review-6-months-later.845021/

Bro keep on watching the led vids and read through the various posts. You will come to understand more about plant lighting. If you stick it out and DIY you will save money, have the latest tech and the better bud. It is as simple as putting together an IKEA jawn. There are loads of directions and easy access to the parts.

I have an optic and a diy. Both are flawless
 

TimoteoPT

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Thank you very much for your feedback sirs! Is there any video/threads where i can learn the basic of led diy? for dummies version please!
 

TimoteoPT

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You are right. However things are not always that simple. For someone that don't have english as first language, explanations are not so simple as you think. My english is ok i think, but reading a post about Diy with technical words and mesures in us metrics is not easy. Do you know how long it took to me to know what was the size of a #40 drill bit in EU sizes?? Researching 10 lines of more technical text in this forum can be though for many people, have that in mind.

Anyway, i din't found anything that showed basics parts of a DIY led panel, explaining what each one of them does, etc.. that's why i was asking for help.

I am not criticizing you, i also don't like lazy people.

Thanks for your time. I am sure i will be able to pull it out.
 

Danielson999

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What is the power 'sweet spot' for Vero 29's? I'd like to run 4 or 5 off one driver. There's a ton of info on the Cree CXA/CXB 3070 etc but not so much for the Vero 29's. I'd like to run them efficiently but also find the best balance of output. What would be comparable to running 4 - CXA 3070 @ 1400ma which gets about 50w's of output?

So I figured on a 4 cob setup for a 2x4 tent. I can always compensate by adding side lights if I need more juice.
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I also found some interesting heatsinks I can add fans to.
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It looks like the pre-drilled holes will work perfectly but I can always customize it to my needs. I'm hoping to get at least 50w per cob because 200w for a 2x4 tent doesn't sound like alot but I'm not all that experienced with this.
Also, the cobs I have access to are in limited supply. They are HERE.

If anyone can help me pick the best part number for the Vero's that would be great.
 

testiclees

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You are right. However things are not always that simple.
What is the power 'sweet spot' for Vero 29's? I'd like to run 4 or 5 off one driver. There's a ton of info on the Cree CXA/CXB 3070 etc but not so much for the Vero 29's. I'd like to run them efficiently but also find the best balance of output. What would be comparable to running 4 - CXA 3070 @ 1400ma which gets about 50w's of output?

So I figured on a 4 cob setup for a 2x4 tent. I can always compensate by adding side lights if I need more juice.
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I also found some interesting heatsinks I can add fans to.
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It looks like the pre-drilled holes will work perfectly but I can always customize it to my needs. I'm hoping to get at least 50w per cob because 200w for a 2x4 tent doesn't sound like alot but I'm not all that experienced with this.
Also, the cobs I have access to are in limited supply. They are HERE.

If anyone can help me pick the best part number for the Vero's that would be great.

Bro for a 2 x 4 I think you're gonna need to run those v29's @~ 2 amps. I used a optic 360 which holds 4 v29's @ ~80W each, casing is 12 x 18. I too use a 2 x 4 space. Def not bright enough.. Space your cobs further apart and this help alot but @50W each x 4 you'd have ~85 par watts for 8 sq ft. Not optimal.

You should run them hard, with lenses, space them out judiciously and give good clearance.
 

Danielson999

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Thanks for the advice. Do you think those 4.5"x4.5" heatsinks will work if I throw fans on each one? Also, I have this choice for Vero 29's.
BXRC-35E10K0-L-23 which is 3500k.
BXRC-30E10K0-L-23 which is 3000k.
BXRC-30G10K0-L-23 which is 3000k.

Are any of those better than the others? Sorry for not knowing the difference. Thanks again.

 

testiclees

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Thanks for the advice. Do you think those 4.5"x4.5" heatsinks will work if I throw fans on each one? Also, I have this choice for Vero 29's.
BXRC-35E10K0-L-23 which is 3500k.
BXRC-30E10K0-L-23 which is 3000k.
BXRC-30G10K0-L-23 which is 3000k.

Are any of those better than the others? Sorry for not knowing the difference. Thanks again.
I cant really give you any useful advice about heatsinks or spectrum. I've used vero29 4k for flower only. it worked great.

If you look around in the led section you can learn enough to easily make a well informed decision.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-efficiency-spreadsheets.865238/unread
https://www.rollitup.org/t/heatsinks-for-diy-led-lamps.851907/page-78#post-12224200
 

Danielson999

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I cant really give you any useful advice about heatsinks or spectrum. I've used vero29 4k for flower only. it worked great.

If you look around in the led section you can learn enough to easily make a well informed decision.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-efficiency-spreadsheets.865238/unread
https://www.rollitup.org/t/heatsinks-for-diy-led-lamps.851907/page-78#post-12224200
I hear ya. I have read most of that stuff and watched a shit-ton of video's but there's so many small details that I'm not sure about some things and don't want to go through ordering without being certain. So you used an optic 360 driver? I can't find a link to that. Anyway I will try doing some more research again soon, it's just so time consuming.
 

testiclees

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I hear ya. I have read most of that stuff and watched a shit-ton of video's but there's so many small details that I'm not sure about some things and don't want to go through ordering without being certain. So you used an optic 360 driver? I can't find a link to that. Anyway I will try doing some more research again soon, it's just so time consuming.
YA It is time consuming. There is a bunch to learn.
 

Best Bud

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Hey there, first time poster here looking for some advice,

I'm currently in the process of setting up my first grow and have pretty much settled on all parts except the grow light.
The LED will be housed in a 4x4 tent and used to grow about 4-5 plants. My budget is about 1000 Euros and I'm looking for a
quality purchase.

I've heard so many different things about which companies are trustworthy and which aren't,
but I'm going to rely on the opinion of informed individuals ratherthan those of bigger companies
who probably write sponsored reviews without even disclaiming it.

From what I've read in this forum, companies like Kind LED and Black Dog are somewhat shunned,
whereas A51, Johnson, Tasty and some others are looked at more favourably.

My problem is that most of these companies are US based and I haven't found a way to purchase
from one of these dealers within the EU. Can someone tell me how to buy one of these lights
within the EU so I can avoid having to deal with customs, import tax, sales tax etc. altogether.

If you need any more info on my grow setup, I'll be happy to provide it.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to assist me with this.

Edit: I should mention I'm not really interested in a DIY setup for the light/s and would prefer a pre-assembled, ready to use product.
 
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medicalMonster

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Lol 1k Euro. You just need seed and soil lolllll.

If you want to over spend on uniTs from the US solarstorm seem to be the biggest rip off. I'm growing massive plants with my 160 US dollar pos. Just look for pics of plants grown only with a mars hydro led. Massive Crystal covered goodness. Most people repping apache kind or any of that are reps Nd guys who over spent and because their plant grows..... They think it's the shit and call everything else crap.

Theirs no argument. Google mars hydro harvest. That's it. Then ask why pay 1k more because US workers cost more. Lollll.
 

medicalMonster

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If your going to quote and shit on me firstly show me a plant pic that clearly shows the thousand dollar US difference.

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The Dawg

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Lol 1k Euro. You just need seed and soil lolllll.

If you want to over spend on uniTs from the US solarstorm seem to be the biggest rip off. I'm growing massive plants with my 160 US dollar pos. Just look for pics of plants grown only with a mars hydro led. Massive Crystal covered goodness. Most people repping apache kind or any of that are reps Nd guys who over spent and because their plant grows..... They think it's the shit and call everything else crap.

Theirs no argument. Google mars hydro harvest. That's it. Then ask why pay 1k more because US workers cost more. Lollll.
 
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