ricky1lung
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It is exactly as asked, I'm sorry some people feel it should be unregulated and refuse to discuss it. That is not what reality has in store.
What does your perfect system look like?
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awesomecannuk
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You're crazy if you think that's all the protection needed or available to customers of goods in a first world country. This is really sad.
CannaReview
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Again you asked What does your perfect system look like? and you are the only one concerned with what regulations will be needed for medical grade weed. Since you now stated you are not against 100% legal who cares how medical weed will be produced is the companies have to follow gov procedures and who care where medicla weed will be sold and what requirements will the store front require.
nsbudca
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It would be awesome to have a totally open market. Grow, give away, buy it for 20$/pound at bulk barn. But we all know that won't happen now. Maybe Rick should have replaced the word perfect with best case scenario.
The LP model is going to be Canada's legal marijuana. Probably with a 5-6 plant personal allowance and store fronts. But mass produced is what will be in stores.
I had to laugh at a post I saw on Facebook from a 19 year old saying he was in school for horticulture and was going to open a dispensary in the valley back home when mj is legal.
My comment was "Lolol good luck. You better have millions. Look at what the LPs had to do to obtain their licenses. Better study their models"
The LP model is going to be Canada's legal marijuana. Probably with a 5-6 plant personal allowance and store fronts. But mass produced is what will be in stores.
I had to laugh at a post I saw on Facebook from a 19 year old saying he was in school for horticulture and was going to open a dispensary in the valley back home when mj is legal.
My comment was "Lolol good luck. You better have millions. Look at what the LPs had to do to obtain their licenses. Better study their models"
ricky1lung
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Guy, if you'd answer the fucking question or fuckoff there would be no need for me to repeat myself.
Great, you have vested interest in keeping the BM cc, dispensary market alive and have no interest in a regulatory system because you probably couldn't afford to enter it and would lose money to legitimate and legal producers.
Yeah, you've got my attention.
JungleStrikeGuy
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It's a plant that should be regulated under the NHP (one thing Tousaw suggested to the SCC during R v Smith).
Ricky, no one's falling for your second kick at the can in spreading LP propaganda. The false dichotomy you're creating in that either we need the nanny state to heavily regulate the industry or meth heads are spraying buds with poison is all too transparent.
The 'perfect' system has as little regulation as possible. No reason a plant (despite people trying to turn weed into a pill, it is still a plant) can't fall into other food regulations.
e: And with Trudeau playing the 'heavy regulation / think of the children' angle you can bet legalization will be the epitome of the nanny state. Bill Blair heading the file is just the icing on the cake.
Ricky, no one's falling for your second kick at the can in spreading LP propaganda. The false dichotomy you're creating in that either we need the nanny state to heavily regulate the industry or meth heads are spraying buds with poison is all too transparent.
The 'perfect' system has as little regulation as possible. No reason a plant (despite people trying to turn weed into a pill, it is still a plant) can't fall into other food regulations.
e: And with Trudeau playing the 'heavy regulation / think of the children' angle you can bet legalization will be the epitome of the nanny state. Bill Blair heading the file is just the icing on the cake.
CannaReview
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Why does it have to be regulated? If it "Medical grade" its already regulated and who ever is growing "medical grade" will have to follow whatever procedure are needed by the gov. You need to change the subject to of this to "What procedures should adhere to the LP's"
CannaReview
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CannaReview
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Actually I don't I want weed to be 100% legal like any plant. I'd make way more money that way then my current way.
ricky1lung
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My perfect system includes everyone. Med, rec or whatever else.
No separation. No need because really what's the diff between med and rec weed?
Maybe synthetics or pills but not bud.
So there is no reason not to look at it as a whole. No need for separation.
If it's free the weed, then how should it be handled. For everyone.
JungleStrikeGuy
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This is the other thing. There is no such thing as 'medical grade' cannabis, there's poorly grown cannabis and well grown cannabis.
Prohibitionists / the bad guys like to try and use as much medical terminology as they can so they can more easily bring in heavy regulation that big pharma is beholden to. Given some pictures I've seen of LP products, some of their stuff is far from 'medical grade'.
Also there's a recent development with Tilray, apparently their 30% stuff tested at ~20 from an independent lab. Good thing we have all these regulations, eh?
awesomecannuk
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The LPs aren't the "other" here. They are a market participant just like the BM and CC guys. Except LPs were given the ability to legally grow and sell cannabis to the public under health and safety regulations. Do you not think LPs will quickly move to the less regulated (or non regulated) market if that option becomes legal?
JungleStrikeGuy
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They will, and they'll be in even more trouble. Say HC finally is able to tell their ass from a hole in the ground and stops treating it like nuclear waste, then you no longer needs to be a millionaire to start a LP or whatever you want to call it. These guys are already bleeding money, with their artificial 'free market' gone they'll start folding.
CannaReview
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I don't care what the LP's will do. If weed its 100% legal I wont' be buying it from anyone. If there is a need for "Medical Grade" cannabis and someone sees a market for it they will step up. follow the procedures the gov requires to produce a "medical grade" product. End of story. After that who care where its sold whether its at Safeway drug isle or a pharmacy.
torontoke
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No I think that their failure will be more obvious to everyone the way it has been so far for patients.
Good top quality meds can't be produced in the way the lps are currently trying to do it.
Too much regulation and greed to care about quality
ricky1lung
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At least they're forced by law to be tested. The other guys are not and in all seriousness how many customers would run to a lab with their newly bought bag and pay to have it tested. The probability of that is slim to none.
The med grade example is exactly right. some growers are better than others.
They used to use the term "wheel chair weed" in the BM to flog their buds as med grown.
Was it true or even close? Who knows for sure.
awesomecannuk
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You guys are insane and obviously extremely biased.
LPs are a just growers. Growers with millions of capital to invest in the business of growing weed.
LPs are a just growers. Growers with millions of capital to invest in the business of growing weed.
redi jedi
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How many people die from "regulated" products every year? You're completely out to lunch.
torontoke
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So then go fix tweed.
There has to be a reason why the product is so bad with all that money behind it right?
It's just a plant how hard can it be.
So what if the flower room is 400 000 sq feet the employees love those plants