What does your perfect system look like?

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CannaReview

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ricky1lung said:
There are regulations in place for legally licensed producers. I'm not asking for new laws, just that everyone who sells via a commercial outlet has their products held to the same standards as everyone else.

That's fair, and will ensure consumers know what is allowed to be in their products.

It's great when you grow your own, it's the only way you really know what's in it, but at least with regulations that all producers must abide by you have a better idea knowing what an lp did or didn't do over an anonymous source.
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You are once again changing the subject to LP's vs Dispensaries. Look at the title of this thread, its your own after all.

If its 100% legal, there will be no need for dispensaries and your LP vs Dispensary will be a moot point. If you want "Medical Grade" cannabis then companies will have to follow what ever procedures the gov enacts for "Medical Grade" cannabis production and you'll probably get it at a pharmacy. At that point medical grade will be a failure as no one will pay 1000% mark up when you can buy it anywhere for dirt cheap.

Why would you not want it 100% legal? You seem to not want it by you constantly bringing up LP vs Dispensary.
 
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tiger mt.

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Not much deep thinking required here, it should be regulated in a similar manner as alcohol, and not subject to excessive taxation. Home grows would be allowed as home brewing is, but sales for profit would require a license.

I think a lot of people that say legalization means an out and out free for all don't understand the modern world. Some might think that no rules would mean they would be able to make mad cash growing with no risk. Unfortunately, all this would mean is that the market would be hopelessly glutted with product that nobody could sell for a profit - the large, well capitalized large scale producers would end up dominating the same way as in a regulated market.
 
ricky1lung

ricky1lung

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CannaReview said:
You are once again changing the subject to LP's vs Dispensaries. Look at the title of this thread, its your own after all.

If its 100% legal, there will be no need for dispensaries and your LP vs Dispensary will be a moot point. If you want "Medical Grade" cannabis then companies will have to follow what ever procedures the gov enacts for "Medical Grade" cannabis production and you'll probably get it at a pharmacy. At that point medical grade will be a failure as no one will pay 1000% mark up when you can buy it anywhere for dirt cheap.

Why would you not want it 100% legal? You seem to not want it by you constantly bringing up LP vs Dispensary.
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I grow vegetables and still buy them from a store. I'm sure you buy things you can produce at home too.

I know there is a place for all players.
So I ask, how does everyone think the players they feel should be in the market be able to operate?

Should it be Wild West or regulated?
How should it be regulated and how should it be distributed and sold?

Really, not an unreasonable question, and most certainly not worth getting angry over, you can simply choose not to participate in the thread.
 
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awesomecannuk

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CannaReview said:
You are once again changing the subject to LP's vs Dispensaries. Look at the title of this thread, its your own after all.

If its 100% legal, there will be no need for dispensaries and your LP vs Dispensary will be a moot point. If you want "Medical Grade" cannabis then companies will have to follow what ever procedures the gov enacts for "Medical Grade" cannabis production and you'll probably get it at a pharmacy. At that point medical grade will be a failure as no one will pay 1000% mark up when you can buy it anywhere for dirt cheap.

Why would you not want it 100% legal? You seem to not want it by you constantly bringing up LP vs Dispensary.
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You keep saying 100% legal and talking about roadside stands.

How would a real industry look? Anyone and everyone can grow however they want and distribute it however they like? The customer is protected by some idealized free market that weeds out bad actors?
 
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ricky1lung

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redi jedi said:
How much regulation is needed? IMO thinking cannabis needs strict and special attention is still believing cannabis is dangerous.
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No more dangerous than produce or even close to alcohol. Yet everything in between is subject to regulations.

What should they be? How should the whole legal system work?
How should it work for rec or med?

The regulations and tax exemptions are good examples.
What should be done to create the system you would like to have?
 
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CannaReview

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ricky1lung said:
I grow vegetables and still buy them from a store. I'm sure you buy things you can produce at home too.

I know there is a place for all players.
So I ask, how does everyone think the players they feel should be in the market be able to operate?

Should it be Wild West or regulated?
How should it be regulated and how should it be distributed and sold?

Really, not an unreasonable question, and most certainly not worth getting angry over, you can simply choose not to participate in the thread.
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Well all I can gather here is you don't want 100% legal cannabis.
 
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ricky1lung

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gb123 said:
you walked right passed how this should be handled and continue to argue your useless points of regulation...
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Redi never said how, just that they don't believe it needs special attention.
Didn't walk past anything.

I never said it needed special attention, but in a commercial market its does need some. What should it be?
 
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redi jedi

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awesomecannuk said:
You keep saying 100% legal and talking about roadside stands.

How would a real industry look? Anyone and everyone can grow however they want and distribute it however they like? The customer is protected by some idealized free market that weeds out bad actors?
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Being an educated consumer helps weed out the people doing things poorly. Thats really the only protection any customers has...for anything. A wild west situation is good for the consumer and survival of the fittest for the producer.

Its funny though that the big fish are afraid the flood gates might open...
 
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torontoke

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tiger mt. said:
Not much deep thinking required here, it should be regulated in a similar manner as alcohol, and not subject to excessive taxation. Home grows would be allowed as home brewing is, but sales for profit would require a license.

I think a lot of people that say legalization means an out and out free for all don't understand the modern world. Some might think that no rules would mean they would be able to make mad cash growing with no risk. Unfortunately, all this would mean is that the market would be hopelessly glutted with product that nobody could sell for a profit - the large, well capitalized large scale producers would end up dominating the same way as in a regulated market.
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If the true goal was to get rid of the black market and get rid of sales without taxes then isn't 100% legal the only way that would happen?
Who would sell and make "mad cash" when everyone grows it and the market is "glutted?"
Welcome to the convo new guy but the alcohol model won't work ever.
 
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CannaReview

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ricky1lung said:
Redi never said how, just that they don't believe it needs special attention.
Didn't walk past anything.

I never said it needed special attention, but in a commercial market its does need some. What should it be?
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So your question then is not What does your perfect system look like? its what restrictions should there be in the current system which lead to the last thread being closed.
 
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ricky1lung

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CannaReview said:
Well all I can gather here is you don't want 100% legal cannabis.
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What?
Of course I do, but I want options and within those options I need to trust the products. I don't trust a person or corporation to do the right thing without laws guiding and forcing them to do so.

That's like trusting a meth head with a few points, I'm not so trusting they would do what was right.
 
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ricky1lung

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redi jedi said:
Being an educated consumer helps weed out the people doing things poorly. Thats really the only protection any customers has...for anything. A wild west situation is good for the consumer and survival of the fittest for the producer.

Its funny though that the big fish are afraid the flood gates might open...
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The flood gates should open.
It will force a better market that provides a wider variety and better quality.
A Wild West without regulations does nothing to protect those with sensitive needs. (Med section?)
 
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CannaReview

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Again you keep going in a circle jerk. if its 100% medical and YOU want to produce "Medical Grade" weed then you'll follow what ever pharma grade procedures the gov says are need to, to have a pharma grade product. You're the only one here concerned over "what prodedures" you would like to see.
 
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