Grow Goddess
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I guess I am right then, the medicinal properties have been removed. As soon as heat is applied to make the rosin, the terpenes are gone. Great for recreational use though.
95% isopropyl alcohol. Hash questions
Yodaweed
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Nope it doesn't work like that, you must use the proper temperature, you are just speaking from a position of inexperience. The lower the temp the better the extraction, all the best extraction artists are moving to this method, many buying pneumonic presses that can press with over 3600 pounds of force, only needing 180F to press and get huge yields of the best tasting you have ever had. I have smoked it all so I am speaking from a position of experience ,this stuff blows the best bho out of the water. Try some from a good maker you would never want anything else.
Grow Goddess
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It is good an everything, and an improvement, compared to the basic methods I have seen. Although, I am very experience and 100% confident that any temperatures exceeding 110F causes major damage to essential terpenes. I have confirmed this hands on. Never mind the boiling points and charts. Hands on is hands on. .
Looks like some awesome stuff though and would love to try some in my new Kanger SUBOX nano. Looks better than what I am vaping in it right now, some low grade, old RSO. It is pretty good though. The RSO does not have the essential terpenes in it.
Yodaweed
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If you haven't smoked it how do you know the terps in it? Terps are the flavor of weed, this is the most flavorful method available right now, why do you think the dispensary charges 75$ a gram for rosin and 30$ a gram for solvent-made (bho or pho) and they do not waste time selling iso, no one would buy it. I take my bubble hash and press it, I take my flowers and press them, I take my dry ice extract and press it, do you see a trend? This takes those listed above and makes them 6 or 7 star full melt , shit is amazing.
Grow Goddess
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I have not smoked yours, but I can say I have smoked mine. Most of the terpenes are lost when there is lack of color and when it is in a sold form. I have seen rare strains as I mentioned before that do not need to show color to contain terpenes. Yours exceeds the rarity of this strain. Not only does it have a clear yellow tint, it also is in a solid form similar to shatter. I assure you, if it contained ALL of the essential terpenes as it could, it would not be in a solid form, it would be liquid.
Dispensaries will charge whatever people are willing to pay. If they are willing to pay $75, that is what the disp will charge.
My favorite oil of them all, hands down, no comparison, is the ND Sap, a fully naturally decarbed oil, no heat is used in the process. Tell me, how much does a dispensary charge for that?
Here is one way you can tell it is real ND Sap when you vaporize it in an eclipse. The terpenes will evaporate first and will provide a much different buzz and taste. Then you have to start kicking the heat up to vaporize the canibinoids like THC, CBD, etc. Again, regardless of boiling points, this is from hands on experience. The only true way I know how to determine for myself if terpenes are present in the concentrate.
Yes, terpenes/flavanoids are the good taste of the product which usually contains color. Amber is the most common. When the product does not contain the terpenes due to filtering, it can smooth the product and increase the effects of THC, but it does not make it a more medicinal oil.
Just my opinion here. We all have one.
Yodaweed
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Well I am a medical patient and the dabs I make from rosin are way more medical than the BHO or PHO from the dispensary or any dab maker I have had besides SHO, so please keep your opinion to yourself because it is wrong and really off. And you still don't have any explaination why the dispensary doesn't waste time with iso? The lowest quality they sell is full melt bubble hash for dabbing. Enjoy your iso, I will enjoy my rosin.
mrpink55
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I have pressed topshelf herb, sift, hash etc. Does not come close to good ice wax not pressed, or shatter. where do you guys get your oil from if you think rosin is better? jeeze let me dab you up
I don't smoke iso, I dab nug run closed loop banner #5, #3 etc. I use 99 iso to clean my rigs I was just trying to contribute to this iso thread?
I stopped making rosin years ago, and your rosin pics are not impressive or unique. They don't compare to my head stash. Suck a dick hype boy no one cares that you are in CO. Most of us are. Rosin blows it is for people not smart enough to run a closed loop.
Grow Goddess
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Do not mean to offend. I believe you when you say what you have been using is the most medicinal you have tried. Although, try to see it from my side. I try to show people something new, and they get offended. I am quite used to it actually. I am not using an iso product. I am using a fully organic product, extracted with 200 proof organic alcohol. When I have seen the difference, not in the looks, but in the effects of the product managing pain on a toothache or fresh wound, and being able to alter the blood brain barrier with THC for a much longer lasting effect, due to the essential terpenes being present, I believe I know the difference in medicinal properties. I simply try to share it with people and my opinion is never welcomed. I have welcomed your opinion, please give mine a better consideration. I know it is not popular, but I speak the truth.
Yodaweed
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I am sorry to hear you wasted your money on a closed loop system, that's ashame. Maybe try to sell and get your money back. BHO sucks , don't matter if you make it closed loop or not, all the major BHO companies have closed loop systems and my rosin shits on it. Even the lazy lion has a closed loop system and they are a joke. I can get closed loop run BHO all day long for 28$ a gram. Extracted by either craft or terpx and I can get green dot lab BHO for 35$ all closed loop, none as good as well run rosin. You guys are in denial and its really a shame for you guys.I have pressed topshelf herb, sift, hash etc. Does not come close to good ice wax not pressed, or shatter. where do you guys get your oil from if you think rosin is better? jeeze let me dab you up
I don't smoke iso, I dab nug run closed loop banner #5, #3 etc. I use 99 iso to clean my rigs I was just trying to contribute to this iso thread?
I stopped making rosin years ago, and your rosin pics are not impressive or unique. They don't compare to my head stash. Suck a dick hype boy no one cares that you are in CO. Most of us are. Rosin blows it is for people not smart enough to run a closed loop.
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Bublonichronic
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Damn bro even a girl knows more than you and is a better extractor! Lol jk GG I still use your natural Decarb method you are very knowledgable
Bublonichronic
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Yoda one day you'll get on my level and extract the Terps before you do a butane extract and once all solvent is gone reintroduce the terp oil, been doin it for a year your WAY behind brah! just cause you make shitty bho and cut corners doesn't mean everyone does
Yodaweed
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Bublonichronic
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Cute meme, your still a amateur...and like I said one day you'll get on level, that's bho with Terps extracted separately, don't worry everyone learns at a different pace and apparently your still stuck at the rosin level
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Bublonichronic
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All this talk about iso made me crave some so I just cleaned out some jars with 91%, and yes it's extremely tasty
Yodaweed
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So cute, you extracted a turd.
Bublonichronic
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Hmm iv always found that "black" hash is usually the best, you see the super blond crystalline stuff next to the turd? It's the same stuff just not pressed
R&RHashman
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it seems pointless these guys are all about buble/rosin and if you are not making that you are making poison. sad thing is the most recent secret cup, a very large portion of rosin,bubble and dry sift entries failed the microbial and pesticide test. not saying bho made from the same shit would not be as dirty, but this whole my shit is pure is crap. it all depends on starting material and temps.
Yodaweed
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People don't smoke iso dabs at those festivals , its either BHO or rosin, at least it was like that at the cannabis cup this year in Denver, no iso at all only BHO or rosin, they had a cool tent set up with this bad ass press for 5$ they pressed your weed. And no dispensary in Colorado sells iso dabs to my knowledge, iso is the lowest quality extraction possible.
Grow Goddess
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Kind of sums it up if you ask me. Exactly what I would expect from recreational users. Not putting recreational use down or anything. I am more familiar with medicinal use.
I assure you, here in northern Michigan, if there is a medicating tent set up at a festival, and the festival is directed toward medicinal use, there would be little to no BHO or rosin there. There also would not be much smoking going on either. It would be more directed toward vaporizing and ingesting. The majority would be iso and alcohol products here in northern MI.
If what you say is true, that iso extractions are the lowest grade possible, why has it not been proven online or in person? Because it is more a matter of the product, who is making it, and opinion based.... I believe it is just your opinion that iso extractions suck. I would have to say you have not had the opportunity to sample a good iso extraction.
That is ok, we are all entitled to our opinions, and preferences.
I would put my vaporizers up against anybody's dabs, any day.
I do have a question when it comes to making rosin oil. Who is the poor individual who gets the damaged buds?