Not GOP
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So then how come he gets to speak for Muslims, but I don't?
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pnwmystery
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That's kind of an asinine question isn't it?
Not GOP
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You think so? Then you're going to love this one. How come Obama went to Paris talking about how mass shootings only happen in America? Would he have said that if the Paris attackers were white Christian males?
You should know by now that I don't consider your nuances before posting. With me you get a torpedo of truth with bright colorful flashes, smashing down your dream world fantasy of a utopian state. It's the only way bro, sorry. If I thought you could be convinced of reality, then I would much rather turn right up the conservative high road instead.
pnwmystery
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It is an asinine question, I just posed it in a rhetorical sense. In context, Obama is correct: What happened in Paris was a preplanned act of terrorism. When was the last mass shooting before this that happened in Paris? Whereas, how many mass shootings have happened in the United States since I dunno let's go with 1985. Actually let's use 1985 as a baseline for mass shootings around the world; how many have happened here in the US versus UK/Australia/France. Actually, let's just make this easier for you: If you classify a mass shooting as an event where more than 4 people are killed or injured by guns, there have been 355 mass shootings this year alone. How many once more in France?
Obama has far, far more experience with Muslims than you could ever hope to have; by virtue of job, education, and age. That's why the question is asinine. Do you get to lecture everyone on physics if you don't understand physics? No, you don't. I really do expect more out of you. I suspect though, that if it were an event in Paris like Anders Breivik, yes Obama would say the exact same thing because he was speaking to the American people. How does everyone forget about Anders Breivik?
Your torpedo of truth is laughable, because you have a ton of really skewed facts and just plain old made up ones, and skewed view points. You're not "smashing down" any "dream world fantasy of a utopian state." You have no idea what my utopian state is, and you lumping me into your view of a liberal is hilarious because every time I lump you as a standard Republican/conservative you start crying about "labeling" you or something.
Edited: Think I answered my own question. I think the last mass shooting in Paris was in 1995.
Not GOP
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I've seen Obama speak to Muslims before about what means to be a Muslim. So as far as you claiming that he is traveling abroad and speaking to the "American people" , is "lauphable."
Mass shootings, and overall shootings in general have gone way up under Obama. The street organizer doesn't know how to solve America's problems, he only makes things worse
pnwmystery
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Yet he doesn't pass laws, Congress does which is held by Republicans... Sooo.... yeah your argument doesn't even stand on its head. And of course he can address the American people from abroad, are you really that thick? Good job knowing how our nation works, haha.I've seen Obama speak to Muslims before about what means to be a Muslim. So as far as you claiming that he is traveling abroad and speaking to the "American people" , is "lauphable."
Mass shootings, and overall shootings in general have gone way up under Obama. The street organizer doesn't know how to solve America's problems, he only makes things worse
Padawanbater2
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/another-right-wing-white-male-goes-on-rampage-of-terrorism-in-colorado.891206/
Let's play a game.. You post examples of Muslim terrorists attacking inside the US since 9/11 and I'll post examples of right-wing terrorists attacking inside the US since 9/11 and we'll see who runs out of names first. Let's see who's the bigger threat to American lives
SamsonsRiddle
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lol right wing terrorists? the colorado shooter was a right wing terrorist, now? come on
Padawanbater2
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How would you classify a person who murdered 3 innocent people at a Planned Parenthood because he believed they were selling baby parts and passed out anti-Obama propaganda to his neighbors?
Dear absolutely is a right-wing terrorist, he murdered people based on political motivations. But don't worry, I have dozens more in the bag besides Dear
SamsonsRiddle
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I'm talking about the guy who shot up the colorado theater, not that idiot.
Not GOP
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Again, you're not comprehending, or cherry picking. Either way it's dancing around the big elephant in the room. Obama is speaking to Muslims about Muslims, and you simply don't want to address the fact that Muslim beliefs do not coincide with liberal values.
Most gun laws have become more strict while Obama has been president, yet gun violence has gone up, and you want to blame the Republicans. If what you are claiming is true, then how come shootings were much less frequent when Bush was president? How come he didn't need to push for legislative restrictions on the second amendment? The obvious truth is, the more gun violence, the more it helps push the Democrat narrative.
Padawanbater2
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Causation =/= correlation
Australia completely revamped their gun control laws after the Port Arthur massacre and haven't had any mass shootings since;
Meanwhile, America has the most guns of any country on Earth and we have a mass shooting just about every single day
So how do you explain that discrepancy? Here are the facts, right in front of your eyes, so how can you look at them and say that more gun control - like Australia has - leads to more gun violence, and less gun control - like we have - leads to less gun violence when reality says the complete opposite?
Why do countries with less guns or stronger gun control have less gun violence?
pnwmystery
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You've proven that your views of Islam are bigoted and skewed though, so when you open your mouth to speak about it no one except the other conservatards want to listen. That's why when you have a person who has a very wide breadth of knowledge and scope to speak on issue, they can and people won't tell them to be quiet over it. If you fail to comprehend this, then there really is no hope for you.
Moreover, do you think that the President can legislate? Or that the President can legislate State laws? Because if you do, you really need to go back to high school and retake a civics course. The last major Federal gun act was passed in 2005 which made it so gun manufacturers and sellers can't be held negligible. Moreover, gun laws have not become "stricter." And then there we go with the "false flag" tin foil hat thing.
SamsonsRiddle
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Gun laws have become more strict all over the nation, just look at new york and chicago.
If you really want to be so technical, he said " the laws have become more strict while obama is president" which is true.
Maybe you should read a quran before you become the expert on who isn't the expert on the subject.
If you really want to be so technical, he said " the laws have become more strict while obama is president" which is true.
Maybe you should read a quran before you become the expert on who isn't the expert on the subject.
Padawanbater2
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Why does the US have more guns and more gun violence than a place like Australia with higher and more stringent gun control laws?
Padawanbater2
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James Holmes didn't commit terrorism, he committed mass murder
You understand the distinction, right?
And Holmes had a left-wing political ideology
Would you like to play the game with me? You list off left-wing terrorist events occurring after 9/11, I'll list off right-wing terrorist events, whoever runs out of names first loses
Not GOP
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you're the bigot. Liberals declared war on white christians a long time ago. I don't accept the premise that Christian Obama gets to speak on behalf of Muslims, but I don't. Not even if you were to create safe space protection from my speech. You will just have to keep hearing about it
The_Herban_Legend
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Better yet, why don't we included all the terror attacks Muslims do around the world vs right wing terror attacks around the world? After all. American lives are not the only ones that matter. I wonder what the dead body count is on Shiite vs Sunni ?
SamsonsRiddle
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I was referencing the forum topic you posted which had his picture under "right wing white killers", i don't need to have a pissing contest with you.
i'm not even a "right-wing" person if that's what you're trying to equate this with...i'm a bible thumper.
I'd rather play a game worth winning...
pnwmystery
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How am I bigot if I'm accepting of other people while you think one type of person is inferior? That's just down right silly and laughable. You have a right to say whatever you want just as much as I have a right to show everyone how stupid the shit you say sometimes is. I never said you don't get to, I said you shouldn't because you don't have the experience. You don't see me trying to lecture you on theoretical physics do you? Or the nuances of Daoism or Tibetan Buddhism. You even thought Iran was Sunni in another thread haha.