Russian jet shot down by Turkey

[pnwmystery]

Politically Correct Jihad? You can't be serious. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. I've never met somebody so far to the left as you. Just when I thought to have heard it all, you surprise me again and again. Bless your liberal heart

I never said "politically correct jihad," good job on reading one thing, failing to comprehend what was written, and then in your feebIe-addled mind taking it to a completely different place. It's a stupidly simple concept too if you're familiar with what's going on. Offensive jihad: Let's go out and kill all those that oppose Islam and our view of Islam. Defensive jihad: We're protecting Muslims from those who seek to destroy Islam. Now we take this to Jabat and Anshar and guess what they're saying? We're protecting Muslims from the Assad regime which is now seeking to stamp out every instance of Islam that they don't agree with. Daesh? Let's kill all those that oppose our view of Islam, because we are the true Islam.

You can make yourself look like an idiot, I'll just reinforce it to everyone. So, now where's the political correctness in this? When in my last post did I say politically correct jihad? Point it out.

 

[MiG pilot]

The Assads have tried to present their family as incredibly pious Muslims,

In appearance, he and his wife do not seem radical Muslims.

 

[Not GOP]

I never said "politically correct jihad," good job on reading one thing, failing to comprehend what was written, and then in your feebIe-addled mind taking it to a completely different place. It's a stupidly simple concept too if you're familiar with what's going on. Offensive jihad: Let's go out and kill all those that oppose Islam and our view of Islam. Defensive jihad: We're protecting Muslims from those who seek to destroy Islam. Now we take this to Jabat and Anshar and guess what they're saying? We're protecting Muslims from the Assad regime which is now seeking to stamp out every instance of Islam that they don't agree with. Daesh? Let's kill all those that oppose our view of Islam, because we are the true Islam.

You can make yourself look like an idiot, I'll just reinforce it to everyone. So, now where's the political correctness in this? When in my last post did I say politically correct jihad? Point it out.

I am calling it politically correct Jihad. Did you see quotation marks around it? No, you didn't. You are one of the most sensative people I've ever met. "bless your heart" is a term of endearment.

Jihad is wrong in all cases. Democracy is the answer. "defensive" and "offensive" Jihad has political correctness written all over it.

 

[MiG pilot]

 

[pnwmystery]

I am calling it politically correct Jihad. Did you see quotation marks around it? No, you didn't. You are one of the most sensative people I've ever met. "bless your heart" is a term of endearment.

Jihad is wrong in all cases. Democracy is the answer. "defensive" and "offensive" Jihad has political correctness written all over it.

If I'm going to speak to you bluntly and you're going to take that as me being offended, you really need to rethink who's been offended here. Also that post just reeks of back peddling; you never put quotation marks around so of course no one saw those lol. Jihad is a concept in Islam and there are many ways to go about it. I'm sorry you can't really understand concepts. :/

 

[Not GOP]

If I'm going to speak to you bluntly and you're going to take that as me being offended, you really need to rethink who's been offended here. Also that post just reeks of back peddling; you never put quotation marks around so of course no one saw those lol. Jihad is a concept in Islam and there are many ways to go about it. I'm sorry you can't really understand concepts. :/

Shariah scholars typically cite as authority for jihad from the Quran any of the 164 verses that refer to jihad against non-Muslims in terms that include military expeditions, fighting enemies, or distributing the spoils of war. By describing the warfare of jihad as something sanctioned by Allah himself. It always boils down to the same principle. Jihad is Jihad, there is only one concept to understand.

 

[MiG pilot]

Jihad is a concept in Islam and there are many ways to go about it.

Probably so. But agree that in the public mind this word is already rooted in the bloody and inhuman way?

 

[ChesusRice]

Political observers are compelled to express biased point of view, and thus create a disgusting to me the fog of propaganda.
I do not apply for this role, and talking about my personal likes and dislikes.
Interests of Putin as Russian official can and certainly different from my own, and I do not have to share his position.

As long as you get paid?
Or are you a fervent nationalist doing this for free?

 

[MiG pilot]

As long as you get paid?
Or are you a fervent nationalist doing this for free?

Where in my words you see nationalism?
In my dislike of the Sharia and those who support it indirectly?
This is quite an international position.
Or do you think I was hired by Putin or Assad? whom I should ask to pay for the displeasure to read such nonsense?
If someone here is waving a flag, it is not me.

 

[oswizzle]

Assad is not a monster or a tyrant... that's your Zionist owned Media portraying that image in your mind... try watching the Assad interview with Charlie Rose...

Evil is Saudi/Israel ... Birds of a Feather

 

[ChesusRice]

Where in my words you see nationalism?
In my dislike of the Sharia and those who support it indirectly?
This is quite an international position.
Or do you think I was hired by Putin or Assad? whom I should ask to pay for the displeasure to read such nonsense?
If someone here is waving a flag, it is not me.

In other words.
Your views are thru the eyes of a bigot

 

[pnwmystery]

Shariah scholars typically cite as authority for jihad from the Quran any of the 164 verses that refer to jihad against non-Muslims in terms that include military expeditions, fighting enemies, or distributing the spoils of war. By describing the warfare of jihad as something sanctioned by Allah himself. It always boils down to the same principle. Jihad is Jihad, there is only one concept to understand.

Keep back peddling and skirting around your error. It's fun to watch you do this lol. Anyways, if you agree with the concepts of offensive and defensive war then you have to be able to see the relevance of "offensive" and "defensive" jihad. However if you believe that "war is war" then I can see where you're coming from and I won't waste our time. However you're also wrong in your assumption that there is only one jihad.

Probably so. But agree that in the public mind this word is already rooted in the bloody and inhuman way?

While I do agree that has little relevance to what I was saying; see above. If there are such things as offensive and defensive wars then there can be such thing as offensive and defensive jihad. Same thing as "just" and "unjust" wars. I never said that jihad could not be bloody and such, just as - once again - wars can be bloody and inhuman.

 

[MiG pilot]

In other words.
Your views are thru the eyes of a bigot

With this argument you nailed me to the pillory, congratulations!

 

[MiG pilot]

If there are such things as offensive and defensive wars then there can be such thing as offensive and defensive jihad.

Please give examples of defensive jihad. or is it a purely theoretical construct?
or is it something that in Iran, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia executed for disrespect for Islam?

 

[pnwmystery]

Please give examples of defensive jihad. or is it a purely theoretical construct?
or is it something that in Iran, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia executed for disrespect for Islam?

Re read the post I made a few back where I describe how we can observe two competing theories/practices/ways/ideologies of jihad, and where I also said that it was in theory. No they wouldn't get executed for doing this in any of those countries because it seems pretty valid from their lens. Moreover if you do believe in the concepts of offensive and defensive wars you should understand, somewhat, what I was saying with offensive and defensive jihad. Just sub jihad for war and there ya go.

 

[MiG pilot]

Re read the post I made a few back

Please do not doubt, I have read several times. Defense and attack, everything is clear.
I suspect that every jihadist considers himself a defender of Islam,
even when severed head of a captive man he believes it is the defensive jihad.

or do you mean Hezbollah against Israel in the occupied territories?

 

[pnwmystery]

Please do not doubt, I have read several times. Defense and attack, everything is clear.
I suspect that every jihadist considers himself a defender of Islam,
even when severed head of a captive man he believes it is the defensive jihad.

or do you mean by Hezbollah against Israel?

I think Hezbollah against Israel would be a good analogy. What I was speaking more towards was the rhetoric change of Anshar al-Sham and Jabat al-Nusra being Salafist groups (Saudi and al-Qaeda backed respectively). Instead of them wanting to destroy the Assad regime because it's Alawite and thus heretical, they're now saying they want to topple the Assad regime because he's trying to destroy Islam and thus in that sense they are protecting and defending Muslims in Syria. Make a little more sense?

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

What is Syria going to do with all the craters it's about to inherit?

http://iranfrontpage.com/headlines/id/5703/

What is America to do once all this is done, and all other countries in the world Hate America even more for there foreign policies. and what they mostly created in the middle east ?? ( ISIS )
With Countries already siding with Russia , let me remind you who they are England, France, Germany , Czechoslovakia , Iran , China , Iraq starting to look like NATO is getting ripped apart again thanks to Turkey for this shit storm ..
Every day seems like another Country is starting to side with Russia .. Could it be ???? may-be they all turn on USA, one day ......You just never know what the future might bring
I know few years back USA wanted to again mess with another country in the middle east ,,, Iran you remember that when USA was talking about invading blah blah blah ..
I always wondered why it never happened until i figured it out
Its like the bully in school he goes around bullying who ever he can until that one day, in this case China . Russia , ( The Big brothers ) corner this bully and say if anything is to happen to our little brother, ( Iran ) If they get drawn into any political or military hardships this will in fact be picking a fight with us a fight or more or less a act of war that you will surely lose
Again i was shocked to find out China went on Nuclear readiness..

So going back in history of US interventions is shows clearly USA has never really done good they only go for there interests here is a few,,,,

1953 Iran -- Cia overthrows Democracy installs the shah
1963 Iraq --- CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service. fucking amazing don't you think ????
1965 Indonesia ----- Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
1973 -- Chile --- CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.

Dam i can go on for ever but we can clearly see who the trouble makers are USA not only do they think there views are right but lack the knowledge of actual being peaceful ..

What we can see in the coming years is that in fact other nations will start going against USA including NATO countries, Truth is America always played the card that there the the all mighty what has actually happened is other countries have read there Bluff ...
2016 is going to be a bad year For USA its the year USA falls apart

 

[Corso312]

She's cute

 

[Corso312]

@2ANONYMOUS ... What will America do? AMERICA will pay other Countries to be our fake ally..like now.