So what do we do now with the "refugees"?

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anzohaze

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bearkat42 said:
So you pay everyone at your shop (except the "oil change guy") fast food wages, but you have the audacity to ask what type of person works fast food as a career? Your fucking 8-10/hr employees, that's who. Jesus you're stupid.
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Umm dude the oil change guy is the lowest paid guy at my shop idiot. Are you truly that fuckin stupid. my techs make between 28 and 35 and hour. And the recieve atleast a dollar a raise a year. Your so so fuckin stupid #fail for not comprehending other shops jiffy lube etc pY there guys shit. My guys except oil guy have been here 6 +plus years all of then
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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anzohaze said:
Umm dude the oil change guy is the lowest paid guy at my shop idiot. Are you truly that fuckin stupid. my techs make between 28 and 35 and hour. And the recieve atleast a dollar a raise a year. Your so so fuckin stupid #fail for not comprehending other shops jiffy lube etc pY there guys shit. My guys except oil guy have been here 6 +plus years all of then
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They don't understand the difference between a flat rate and being paid on labor hours.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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Just read an interesting article about Canada's revised refugee plan. They're excluding single men. Women, children and families are still in the mix, but no single men.

It's almost like a sovereign nation (even a liberal one) has the right to decide who is and isn't admitted into their borders...weird.
 
ASCIIGHOST

ASCIIGHOST

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anzohaze said:
My oil chang guy at.my shop makes 15 dollars an hour while everyone else.pay 8-10 dollars an hour I appreciate the work my employees do. They take care of.me I take care of them simple as that. What type.of.person would or works at fast food as a career 40 hours a week
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its not uncommon for franchise owner of mcdonalds to profit a million a year or more. a better question would be:

what type of person would eat fast food?
 
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anzohaze

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@bearkat42 Why yes I certainly am. Again professor vagina #fail it's a weed forum not an english forum... see what I did there. You were crying the same shit this is a weed forum. Owned 2x today I'll keep track today also I am screen shot things so if my post get deleted I can still pull things back up to show you how much you actually do fail. Buck taught me that.
See i learn from everyone
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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bearkat42 said:
Exactly! I mean who gives a fuck about facts? They just get in the way of a already incoherent argument.
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Lol, if two liberals agree on something it's fact. If they get a third douchebag on board, it's a study. Put that "fact" on placards, in the hands of useful liberal idiots and it becomes a movement. Get the liberal talking heads in the MSM to parrot the bullshit and it becomes a basic right.
 
The_Herban_Legend

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Padawanbater2 said:
If you want to decrease the amount of welfare we pay out as a country, then pay workers more

It's as simple as that
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It is not as simple as that. For example, burger flipper x, gets an increase in wages from $7.50 to $15 an hour. That pay increase affects the profits and overall bottom line. Do you think any rational business owner would just eat the increased labor costs? HELL NO! They will increase the cost of the product, in this case, the food where this burger flipper got his hefty raise, will have to be raised dramatically, offsetting or negating any increase in wages.

If you really want people to get more bang out of their buck, we have to reduce the deficit and keep inflation at bay. Americans our getting less for their dollar not because of low wages but because of inflation and debt. This is a complex and lengthy discussion to get into that most people on here would not understand. Raising wages is not the answer. That is political posturing that rallies the base because to an uneducated population, it sounds good, right?
 
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bearkat42

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MuyLocoNC said:
Lol, if two liberals agree on something it's fact. If they get a third douchebag on board, it's a study. Put that "fact" on placards, in the hands of useful liberal idiots and it becomes a movement. Get the liberal talking heads in the MSM to parrot the bullshit and it becomes a basic right.
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That makes sense. I guess that's why "conservatives" don't even bother with facts in the first place. They know that liberals would only do something crazy, like use them.
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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The_Herban_Legend said:
It is not as simple as that. For example, burger flipper x, gets an increase in wages from $7.50 to $15 an hour. That pay increase affects the profits and overall bottom line. Do you think any rational business owner would just eat the increased labor costs? HELL NO! They will increase the cost of the product, in this case, the food where this burger flipper got his hefty raise, will have to be raised dramatically, offsetting or negating any increase in wages.

If you really want people to get more bang out of their buck, we have to reduce the deficit and keep inflation at bay. Americans our getting less for their dollar not because of low wages but because of inflation and debt. This is a complex and lengthy discussion to get into that most people on here would not understand. Raising wages is not the answer. That is political posturing that rallies the base because to an uneducated population, it sounds good, right?
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Who is the last Republican president to reduce that deficit you speak of? I'm struggling to remember. But then again, I'm only 45. Meaning I've only been around since Nixon. So maybe it happened before then.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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bearkat42 said:
That makes sense. I guess that's why "conservatives" don't even bother with facts in the first place. They know that liberals would only do something crazy, like use them.
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Lol, liberals are the retarded stepchildren of this country. They don't "use" facts they manufacture them. Liberals are a disease and common sense is always the best cure for them.
 
The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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bearkat42 said:
Who is the last Republican president to reduce that deficit you speak of? I'm struggling to remember. But then again, I'm only 45. Meaning I've only been around since Nixon. So maybe it happened before then.
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Why are you falsely assuming I side with the Republicans? Just because I point out a fact that goes against your ideology, does not mean I am of the opposite political ideology. Facts are facts.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Padawanbater2 said:
The effective income tax rate of the top 1% is well below what the middle-class pays. Why should middle-class people pay higher income tax rates than wealthy people?

The bottom line is that everyone has to pay taxes, so which system is better, a regressive one, like the one we have now, where the wealthier you become, the less income tax you pay, or a progressive one, where the poorer you are, the less income tax you pay? We know by looking at history that effective income tax rates don't correlate with economic growth, so when the very wealthy pay more taxes, it doesn't negatively affect the rate of unemployment. We know that the most effective way to grow the economy is through having a strong middle-class. And we know that providing social safety net programs that help the disadvantaged and unfortunate does positively correlate to economic growth because able bodies earn money and circulate it throughout the economy.

Knowing the combination of these things gives us a successful recipe for a solution. Understanding what got us into the Great Depression and what got us out of it provides the necessary framework for progress. What led to the economic situations of 1929 and 2007 have many things in common, and by that measure, they will take similar solutions. If we don't do something now when we can, we won't have the option to when people decide to take things into their own hands later. If FDR didn't finance the recovery by shifting the tax burden onto the people who could pay for it, the people would have, and it wouldn't have been pretty, and that's the same thing that will happen to this government if they choose to do nothing or choose to do the wrong thing.
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One big difference is that we don't have factories pumping out war machine and western Europe to buy them to the point of lend lease. The great works projects helped, but it was the jobs provided by the war effort and the influx of capital fleeing Nazi Europe that wound up in the gold-backed currency of the United States that pulled the US economy out of depression. The sale of bonds fueled the economy as taxes only covered 40% of WWII's price tag.

After WWII American consumerism drove the economy, but as we've come to discover, we simply cannot spend our way into financial independence. Consumerism is a drain on finite resources leading to a depleted environment, an exploited 3rd world workforce, and it emotionally bankrupt people who now feel that they have to spend in order to feel good about themselves.

An interesting thought would be to consider if the multinational companies existed outside the United States and raped our country for natural resources and exploited our workforce for cheap, disposable labor. Perhaps we're already on that path...
 
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