Legalization

[TheRealDman]

Keep in mind llyods will insure anything that's legal -for a price. Many athletes/celebrity's have specific body parts insured. Need insurance for something odd call llyods they'll cove ya but it will cost you.

I'm with Lloyds now and they are NOT currently offering homeowners insurance in Canada for active MMJ grows. They did, and will again....IF Phelan sides with us.

 

[The Hippy]

Sure am glad the government has come along with all their new knowledge to save me.
They can do me a favor....mind their own business.
You know at my age, i don't think i need anyone's help thanks.
Farkin new comers to this acting like they fuckin know anything....
I'm seriously not gonna listen.

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

I'm with Lloyds now and they are NOT currently offering homeowners insurance in Canada for active MMJ grows. They did, and will again....IF Phelan sides with us.

Do they offer insurance to someone who want to grow tomatoes indoors, or is it just mj growers? That would be interesting. I got tenant insurance when I moved a few months ago...and it had a spot where I had to agree there was " No marijuana activity". WTF is that? My garden is at a different address, so it didn't matter, but isn't smoking a joint a 'marijuana activity'?

 

[torontomeds]

I would be happy with 6 plants in flower per person (and animals lol) per household, and double that in veg, so 18 in total per person per household, Also no more then 2000watts per person. This is for rec for med, you apply for a plant count like in MMAR, you get your plant count and your good.

 

[torontomeds]

Do they offer insurance to someone who want to grow tomatoes indoors, or is it just mj growers? That would be interesting. I got tenant insurance when I moved a few months ago...and it had a spot where I had to agree there was " No marijuana activity". WTF is that? My garden is at a different address, so it didn't matter, but isn't smoking a joint a 'marijuana activity'?

You can get crop protection coverage on any crop in Canada including MJ but it has to be legal.

 

[TheRealDman]

You can get crop protection coverage on any crop in Canada including MJ but it has to be legal.

Yes, only LP's can get MMJ coverage ATM. As to the indoor tomatoes theory, tried it...not gonna fly. Sure, you could lie and say that your only growing veggies, but you're putting your dwelling on the line if you run into a loss. My Lloyds policy specificlly states "no MMJ cultivation", but medicating in the dwelling is fine. I guess some folks are comfortable with such a large risk, but my home is my retirement...so I'll just wait for Phelan to get off his ass. Tick, tock!

 

[redi jedi]

Not a insurance seller, just a victim of not reading the fine print!

The insurance Industry may not know about growing cannabis perse, but they do know how to identify perceived risks that go with cannabis growing.

And, before ya'll go off on "it's just a plant like any other houseplant "...we all know that's not true. Lets be honest, not too many house plants require multiple HID lighting (risk electrical), or boring holes thru foundations for intake/exhaust (risk structural), or running 100's of gallons of water in Hydro setups (risk flood, mold).

If ya'll don't think the Insurance Industry is gonna be involved in homegrows, you're all sadly mistaken.

Your just legitimizing those wrongly perceived risks...You make growing cannabis sound dangerous. Your just helping the man take your garden away...if you had/have one?

Holes get drilled in or through foundations every day. But considering most of the foundation is bellow ground, its not the first place your going to make a hole for ventilation. Thats something someone looking to steal power would do. That same person probably doesnt care about mold either.

 

[gb123]

Your just legitimizing those wrongly perceived risks...You make growing cannabis sound dangerous. Your just helping the man take your garden away...if you had/have one?

Holes get drilled in or through foundations every day. But considering most of the foundation is bellow ground, its not the first place your going to make a hole for ventilation. Thats something someone looking to steal power would do. That same person probably doesnt care about mold either.

salesman

 

[TheRealDman]

Your just legitimizing those wrongly perceived risks...You make growing cannabis sound dangerous. Your just helping the man take your garden away...if you had/have one?

Holes get drilled in or through foundations every day. But considering most of the foundation is bellow ground, its not the first place your going to make a hole for ventilation. Thats something someone looking to steal power would do. That same person probably doesnt care about mold either.

How am I legitimizing the risks? I don't perceive them, the insurance industry does. Have you tried to get homeowners insurance lately with a MMAR grow? Have at dude, you'll won't find ANY coverage!! Even for a "former" MMJ grow, Lloyds is the only coverage in Canada for former MMAR grows. Even then it has to be $500k min risk to qualify for the policy.

And yes, I have grown indoors and out for 3+ decades, what has that got to do with anything? Do you think I've enjoyed looking at this since April of this year?

 

[TheRealDman]

salesman

If that was directed at me, you have no idea how wrong you are dude.

 

[redi jedi]

If you were growing tomatoes in that room, would you need to tell your insurance company about it? Would they see that as the same level of risk? well Im sure if you did tell them you were growing tomatoes, your rates would go up. But because tomatoes are legal....the perceived risk is much less while the actual risk is no different.

 

[TheRealDman]

If you were growing tomatoes in that room, would you need to tell your insurance company about it? Would they see that as the same level of risk? well Im sure if you did tell them you were growing tomatoes, your rates would go up. But because tomatoes are legal....the perceived risk is much less while the actual risk is no different.

Now you're starting to catch on.

 

[gb123]

Looks like an apartment grow op.

The fact you've been looking at that and not using it is your choice.
I'd get rid of the 2by4 hangers and use chain to hang lights

 

[TheRealDman]

If you were growing tomatoes in that room, would you need to tell your insurance company about it? Would they see that as the same level of risk? well Im sure if you did tell them you were growing tomatoes, your rates would go up. But because tomatoes are legal....the perceived risk is much less while the actual risk is no different.

It all about the legality of what you're growing. Now you're starting to catch on.

 

[torontoke]

How am I legitimizing the risks? I don't perceive them, the insurance industry does. Have you tried to get homeowners insurance lately with a MMAR grow? Have at dude, you'll won't find ANY coverage!! Even for a "former" MMJ grow, Lloyds is the only coverage in Canada for former MMAR grows. Even then it has to be $500k min risk to qualify for the policy.

And yes, I have grown indoors and out for 3+ decades, what has that got to do with anything? Do you think I've enjoyed looking at this since April of this year?

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Did you have an electrician in to get a signature for mmar paperwork?
If that op has been signed off and approved by a licenced professional than I think that would minimize or negate all of your fears if anything bad were to happen.
If you had a fire because of the room then he's responsible and if it were a legal situation he is proof you did everything right.

 

[TheRealDman]

Looks like an apartment grow op.

The fact you've been looking at that and not using it is your choice.
I'd get rid of the 2by4 hangers and use chain to hang lights

Yeah, it is the bedroom of the basement apartment of my 2 story house. 4K HPS/MH mix, professionally built to ON code. Inspected by fire, Hydro One and OPP...so I think I'm good thanks!

Pffft...not only are you giving trolls a bad name with your pathetic attempt at being one...but you're obviously an amateur on safe grow room design! Go do some research, maybe even setup a few dozen grows like I have.....then come back and we'll talk!

 

[TheRealDman]

Did you have an electrician in to get a signature for mmar paperwork?
If that op has been signed off and approved by a licenced professional than I think that would minimize or negate all of your fears if anything bad were to happen.
If you had a fire because of the room then he's responsible and if it were a legal situation he is proof you did everything right.

Yes signed off by all legit contractored professionals. But, it still oesn't matter...Insurance say no MMJ cultivation as Mar 14/2014. Lloyds has been provided all contractor docs, and have Broker personally inspected and took dozens of pics. Still no go until Phelan decision. I have been advised by my broker that all existing Lloyds policies policies have been getting renewed until a final decision...everyone else if fukd til then.

 

[redi jedi]

And, before ya'll go off on "it's just a plant like any other houseplant "...we all know that's not true. Lets be honest, not too many house plants require multiple HID lighting (risk electrical), or boring holes thru foundations for intake/exhaust (risk structural), or running 100's of gallons of water in Hydro setups (risk flood, mold).
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How am I legitimizing the risks? I don't perceive them, the insurance industry...

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[gb123]

Yeah, it is the bedroom of the basement apartment of my 2 story house. 4K HPS/MH mix, professionally built to ON code. Inspected by fire, Hydro One and OPP...so I think I'm good thanks!

Pffft...not only are you giving trolls a bad name with your pathetic attempt at being one...but you're obviously an amateur on safe grow room design! Go do some research, maybe even setup a few dozen grows like I have.....then come back and we'll talk!

who are you trying to fool?

you don't hang HID's with string.
or do you wrap extension cords around duct work...etc..
the list is endless with defects.

 

[redi jedi]

Rope pulls could be a questionable choice with those giant hoods...but the wire wrapped around the duct is a no-no to any electrical inspector.

 

[TheRealDman]

who are you trying to fool?

you dont hang HID's with string.
or do you wrap extension cords around duct work...etc..the list is endless with defects.

One grounded extension cord....ohhh my, how unsafe!

Not string dumbass, proper ratchet adjustable hood hangers...lol! Each one is rated for 75lbs. Two hangers on each 50lb hood, over kill I know...that's how I roll. Again do some fukin research on growing cannabis before flapping your yip about shit you have no idea about. Your nothing but a "wannabe troll", with still a lot to learn in that department. Wadda Dik...GFY!