Sorry, that's not an option with the SSI program. VA, I don't know, I am waiting for a response from them.
Disability fraud: What to do about it?
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No, they aren't. Nobody lives in a vacuum. We all have families, friends, and neighbors...and people talk. Especially in small towns.
I would also add that the skilled con artist has a high degree of cognitive dissonance. They truly believe their own BS and are thereby less reluctant to yak about it. Also, I think, they have an impulse to actually brag about it.
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doublejj
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"Fraud" is a smoke screen for people that wish to cut benefits for the needy. It's never as bad as they portray it to be, it's a small percentage overall. It's an excuse to deny benefit funding. It would cost more to investigate the abusers than we are losing to them & it would only slow things down even more. And that is part of their plan also.
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whitebb2727
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I get it. I've seen it. I don't think its a rampant problem. Nobody likes to let money go. Its the government.
Doesn't mean your system isn't similar to our which it is I currently live in USA all my points are still valid
The VA does not have an unlimited budget. Every dollar into the fraudster pocket is a dollar that might go to a genuinely disabled veteran. What is particularly twisted is that the fraudster, who has no shame, pride, or conscience, will put a lot more effort into getting a payout than those that genuinely need it as they do have pride. I'm not talking guys that lost limbs or got shot up. The vanguard of VA disability fraud is for people that the VA cannot find anything really wrong with them, but enough persistence and a big enough medical file.... I witnessed this process with active duty personnel as well while in the Army.
doublejj
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I know the system has abuse, but if it were any harder to get benefits hardly anyone would have them. It's a small percentage overall.
Grandpapy
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Loosing track of the true fraud, Corporations shouldn't be getting tax brakes while VA gets less funding, especially during a war. They should have some "skin" in the game.
abandonconflict
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You don't seem to know what is going on in our system either. I have never seen you express any opposition to the fact that a quarter of all homeless are vets, or thatso many vets die waiting for bennies to kick in, or that 22 vets a day kill themselves. You come in here bitching about what you say is fraud. This case you speak of, is the guy a vet? Did he serve his country? Are you his fucking doctor? If he is service connected, he is not defrauding the system. This is how the system works and it is a vast improvement over what we had 5 years ago. If you're against the gov't paying bennies, why don't you protest against wars?
farmasensist
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My roommate is on disability and i feel like he is scamming the system. He was in a bad accident where he died a few times and went into a coma but he has recovered and worked since that has happened. He lost one job because of a failed drug test. He had another job but he got a hernia and took a few days off and never went back so obviously he can work.
His mom got him on disability and he worked for his uncle getting cash under the table but now his uncle isn't working so instead of looking for a job or cleaning up the house, he sits on his ass all day because he says if he gets a job he'll have to pass a drug test and he will loose his insurance and disability if he is working.
His mom got him on disability and he worked for his uncle getting cash under the table but now his uncle isn't working so instead of looking for a job or cleaning up the house, he sits on his ass all day because he says if he gets a job he'll have to pass a drug test and he will loose his insurance and disability if he is working.
farmasensist
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I have another friend who went into coma from an accident, had half his skull crushed in. He said he was on disability and when he got off they wanted him to pay them back but he decided to work. Now he has a good job while my room mate is content with eating dollar store baloney for the rest of his life as long as he doesnt have to do anything to earn it. And if he does earn some extra money from his uncle he goes to the strip club or spends it on liquor and weed.
I think that was more of a rant than answering your question but what do i do about it? He's in my house and too broke to move or find another place to live and if he stops getting the disability chech, he can't pay me his rent.
I think that was more of a rant than answering your question but what do i do about it? He's in my house and too broke to move or find another place to live and if he stops getting the disability chech, he can't pay me his rent.
Agreed, but that is an entirely different issue.
Yes, doctors can never be deceived. They are angels, and openly wear halos in our society, particularly government ones. As for your "service connected" comments, that's just ridiculous. In regard to the wars you speak of, I am vehemently opposed to all of them. Just about all of the recent ones have been oil-related. Get out a global map and have a look.
That's my last comment on this for now. I am early with this issue, very early. I'll revisit it when the mega-recession takes hold.
doublejj
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Having PTSD is not "gaming the system".....your an ass
One last comment at this time: doublejj I am aware of your record and I would like to point out that it is not Vietnam vets that are gaming the system. Based on anecdotal evidence, I would say it is coming from people that enlisted voluntarily from the late eighties onward. When I revisit the topic, I will have better data. See everybody then.
doublejj
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Volunteering for service does not give you a different type of PTSD....
whitebb2727
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Can I like that twice. Actually gave me chill bumps.
Bluerock. I will not devulge my rating. I will let you know that I got ten percent of it for a broken bone while on duty. I was injured. Even if that bone doesn't hurt now I still get a service connected rating for it. Some might think I don't deserve that. Who are you or they to judge?
Sorry, I should not have included your quote directed at another poster. I am not referring specifically to PTSD.Volunteering for service does not give you a different type of PTSD....
Grandpapy
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Not really, you want to sweep up all the nails on the racetrack. I wish to stop the tractor trailer loosing his load up ahead of us.
But then again you might be heading up the "Run flat" tire revolution...